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yaar abhi bhi behes mein lage ho iss thread par. lists daalo.

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@dennycane – thanx for explaining to ank that in different business environments different numbers mean diff things. NG ke 200 comments waale din gaye. paid membership, intellectual censorship aur bans ke iss zamaane mein 100 comments bhi bahut hain. 30 mere responses hain to baaki to logon ke kiye hai na.

and thanx dennycrane for ur list

@shabbira – though ur list is nowhere similar to my list, i find it one of the most sensible. u have not named random films and most of them are worth being in the list, if not winning.

guys today is the last day of the week so put up ur list fast.

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So guys here are the results of the survey on 10 greatest films of bollywood. To begin with – 1st the ‘unprocessed’ data – which is total score of top 25 films

1. Sholay – 105
2. 3 idiots- 58
3. Mughal e aazam – 48
4. Andaz apna apna – 46
5. Rang de basanti – 44
6. Hum aapke hain kaun – 42
7. Dilwale dulhaniyale jaayenge – 36
8. Mother india – 35
9. Hera pheri – 29
10. Chak de india – 29
11. Wanted – 26
12. Tere naam – 24
13. Namaste london – 18
14. Munnabhai MBBS – 15
15. Swades – 15
16. Kal ho na ho – 15
17. Paakeezah – 15
18. Khalnaayak – 15
19. Taare zameen par – 15
20. Jo jeeta wahi sikandar – 15
21. Kuchh kuchh hotahai – 14
22. Wanted – 14
23. Jis desh mein ganga behti hai – 13
24. Anand- 12
25. deewaar – 12

Now this is a score that has a ‘time bias’ as well as a ‘profile bias’ bulit into it. Most youngesters havent watched old movies and hence they have voted only newer movies as I suspected. Hence the need to correct that time bias for which i will multiply scores of all films with the nuymber of gap years between 2013 and their release years. so mughal e aazam gets multiplied by 53, sholay by 38 and 3 idiots by 4.

Also there are many films that may be considered a cult or classic by a handful of viewers who use internet but their boxoffice status says otherwise (andaz apna apna, tere naam, swades hera pheri). However as some members pointed out the correcting the audience profile bias’ by multiplying by its boxofffice status is not a good aidea as a film at no 10 spot in a certain year may not have had 1/10th of the footfall of the film at no1. So I will let that go. And only present ‘time bias corrected’ list of 10 greatest hindi films. Also as you can see there are 8 films with a score of 15. Its all the more reason to make these corrections to find out which are ‘real classics’ and which are there just by virtue of being released recently. So here go the calculations.

1. Sholay – 105×38/100 = 39.9
2. 3 idiots- 58 x 4/100 = 2.32
3. Mughal e aazam – 48×53/100 = 25.4
4. Andaz apna apna – 46×19/100 = 8.74
5. Rang de basanti – 44×6/100 = 2.64
6. Hum aapke hain kaun – 42×19/100 = 7.98
7. Dilwale dulhaniyale jaayenge – 36×18/100 = 6.48
8. Mother india – 35x56x/100 = 19.6
9. Hera pheri – 29×13/100 = 3.77
10. Chak de india – 29 x6/100 = 1.74
11. Wanted – 26 x 4/100 = 1.04
12. Tere naam – 24×10/100 = 2.4
13. Namaste london – 18 x6/100 = 1.08
14. Munnabhai MBBS – 15×10/100 = 1.5
15. Swades – 15×9/100= 1.35
16. Kal ho na ho – 15 x10/100 = 1.5
17. Paakeezah – 15×41/100 = 6.15
18. Khalnaayak – 15×20/100 = 3
19. Taare zameen par – 15×6/100 = .90
20. Jo jeeta wahi sikandar – 15 x 21/100 = 3.15
21. Kuchh kuchh hotahai – 14 x 15/100 = 2.1
22. Wanted – 14 x 4/100 = .56
23. Jis desh mein ganga behti hai – 13×53/100 = 6.89
24. Anand – 12×42/100 = 5.04
25. Deewaar 12/38/100= 4.56

The final list of 10 greatest indianfilms – corrected for ‘time bias’ but not ‘audience profile bias’stands as

10.Deewar – 4.56
9. Anand – 5.4
8. Paakeezah – 6.15
7. Dilwaale dulhaniya le jaayenge – 6.48
6. Jis desh mein ganga behti hai – 6.89
5. Hum aapke hain kaun – 7.98
4. Andaz apna apna – 8.74
3. Mother india – 19.6
2. Mughal e aazam – 25.4
1. Sholay – 39.9

As we can all see – there is not much of a bias pro old films and films of all eras have been included – that is if they are genuinely considered classic enuff to be voted highly (hahk, andaz apna apna, ddlj)

If u look at the next lot of 10 u will realize how its even more fair as more and more recent films make it. And perhaps a larger sample size wud have resulted in more ‘correct’ results.

20.Munnabhai mbbs – 1.5
19. Kal ho na ho – 1.5
18. Chak de india – 1.74
17. Kuchh kuchh hotahai – 2.1
16. 3 idiots – 2.32
15. Terenaam – 2.4
14. Range de basanti – 2.64
13. kahalanayk – 3
12. jo jeeta wahi sikandar – 3.15
11. hera pheri – 3.77
theonly anamoly I think are the freak cases of jis deshmein ganga behti hai and khalnayak getting highly voted as copmared to say an awaara or aankhein (govinda) – but that’s got moreto do with the ‘sample size’ (only 21 ppl gave their list) than my methodology. If more ppl had voted – I am sure even these freak cases wud have been eliminated and more deserving films wud have enterd. As I kept saying if the sample size is small the results will be erroneous. In fact they are much less erronous than I thought.

Offcourse a ‘footfall based correction wud have pushed out films like phir herapheri and andaz apna apna and wud have brought in films like maine pyaar kiya and aankhein.

offcourse if u already think ‘kai po che’ is the greatest bollywood film ever made – this survey wont satisfy you.

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@fazal – tum sirf list padh lo na.

yelo.

10.Deewar – 4.56
9. Anand – 5.4
8. Paakeezah – 6.15
7. Dilwaale dulhaniya le jaayenge – 6.48
6. Jis desh mein ganga behti hai – 6.89
5. Hum aapke hain kaun – 7.98
4. Andaz apna apna – 8.74
3. Mother india – 19.6
2. Mughal e aazam – 25.4
1. Sholay – 39.9

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@alfa.one – there are minor anomalies in the list due to small sample size. yes even i expected more ppl familiar with older films to vote for aawara and pyaasa rather than jis desh mein ganga behti hai but 2-3 chose to and then it did not get ‘offset’ becoz of small sample size.

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@fazal – that view of urs was factored in – for watever it was worth – in the survey in the form of ur vote. but most ppl dont seem to think wat you do. and i am inlcuding both younger and older ppl in this.

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@fazal – ther is no NEED for you to watch sholay and mughal e aazam if u dont like them. nor do u have to vote for older movies/actors etc in this countdown. it has built in ‘correctors’.

u just watch and vote for the films u like. but be sure ur vote will just have the value of ’1′ – like everone else’s.