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A List of Hurt Sentiments of Muslim Groups
wall-D | February 3, 2013, 2:22 AM | 29 comments | 0 views


Some people should know what will offend and what will not but they never seem to learn. If you’re writing an article, a book or making a movie you should first make a list of all those who will be offended by it and then sanitise your work. This piece of sound advice is not from me but the Honourable Minister Shashi Tharoor. You see, Tharoor believes anything offending Hindus is a work of art and should be appreciated and applauded as such. But if you’re about to write anything or make any movie that has the remote chance of offending Muslims you should think twice. He established this doctrine of free speech in a debate with the late Christopher Hitchens. I quote Tharoor because his logic symbolises the entire left-liberal crap in the Indian socio-political system.
Poor Ashis Nandy! He made some comment about OBCs and Dalits being corrupt and he’s about to pay a price for it. This was during a discussion at the latest edition of the Jaipur Litterfest. Yes I call them Litterfests since they seem to have nothing to do with literature but more of a platform for political discussions. Last year the same Litterfest had to contend with protests against Salman Rushdie’s participation. Hmm! That guy had offended Muslims with ‘Satanic Verses’. This year the Muslims have taken preventive measures to ensure he doesn’t turn up. Then there are those ThinkFests by the Tehelka group of Tarun Tejpal which is tainted by accusations of extortion for ads from the Goa govt. Then again there was another Litterfest where Girish Karnad ranted against VS Naipaul at a function to honour the latter. While the Rajasthan govt was quick to file FIRs against Nandy they haven’t filed any FIR against Union Minister Sushil Shinde who spewed hatred with his “Hindu terror” speech. It took the AP govt months to act against the Owaisis who frequently indulge in filthy speeches.
Imagine, if Shinde had made the same statement about “Muslim Terror” his house probably would have been burned to the ground on the same day. He would have been lucky if there was no physical attack on him if he were to make such a statement. And for all this, super moron Shahrukh Khan believes he’s a “victim” in India. Both Shinde and SRK have now found a natural friend an admirer in ‘Shri’ Hafeez Saeed. I have written many times over that our media is simply scared of Islamic terror and that prevents them from honestly reporting the loutish and thuggish behaviour of certain Muslim groups. Every Muslim public figure has enhanced the “victimhood” feeling for Muslims despite some having achieved fame and fortune in India like SRK. NDTV even specialises on topics that claim Muslims are being “stereotyped”. Let’s see, if some Muslims are going to be angered and protest (often violently) so frequently over every silly thing who exactly is stereotyping them?
Then Muslims claim they don’t get enough job opportunities and aren’t accepted as part of the mainstream. Victimhood again! Hypothetically, supposing a Muslim was employed as a senior manager and one of his peers were to be promoted there is nothing to suggest he won’t claim being discriminated against because he’s a Muslim and won’t go to court. The behaviour and conduct of public figures from the Muslim community holds them to a prison where it seems they can’t lighten up. Jokes offend them, articles offend them, books offend them, music offends them, movies offend them; there isn’t much that doesn’t offend them. India makes them feel like victims! Is there anything that doesn’t offend them? Amitabh Bachchan had to live the taint of Bofors scam for 25 years but he didn’t claim he felt like a victim in India. SRK has faced nothing like that and yet claims he’s victimised because he’s a Muslim in India. The nonsense of SRK has been wonderfully exposed by Venky Vembu in Firstpost who appropriately calls it “King of Victimhood: Shah Rukh Khan bites the hand that fed him”.
Trust me, it doesn’t stop there. Three years ago when US president Barack Obama visited India some Muslims were up in arms. In that case the reason being a security dog from the Obama team was named “Khan”. Makes me wonder how many movies should have been banned, theatres burnt and actors attacked because domestic helps in Bollywood movies are often named “Ramu Kaka”. One of the greatest legal battles in the US over free speech was between Larry Flynt (Founder of porn magazine Hustler) and religious leader Jerry Falwell. Read about in Die Freedom. I quote from that post:
In the landmark case the US SC observed: “The fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker’s opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas”.
Flynt and the late Falwell later became friends and often had friendly debates. In one of those debates Flynt mentioned that in the monthly agenda meetings of Hustler the discussion was “Who haven’t we offended this month?” Haha! That requires constitutional protection. And he added “Time and Newsweek don’t need constitutional protection, it is people like us who offend who need the protection”.
So when Kamal Haasan’s latest movie “Vishwaroopam” was banned in Tamil Nadu it’s again because Muslims protested. I haven’t seen the movie but I hear it’s about a dance teacher who is also a Tamil-speaking Jihadi in Afghanistan. That in itself is laughable but more laughable is that some Muslims find it offensive, many may not even have seen the movie. Against a petition by KH to Madras HC to revoke the ban, the court actually told him to “discuss with the opposing members” to find a solution. This is what appeasement has brought India to. We may now have to negotiate solutions with those who break the law, the offenders. Who knows, in future a molestation victim may be asked to negotiate with the molester too.
I believe the Film Certification Board in India should be the last word on whether a film complies with the laws in India and if they have certified it then the movie shouldn’t be banned. If the FBC has overlooked any provisions of law, that should be contested only in a court and not on the streets. There was this joke floating on Twitter last evening about a devout Arab Muslim hiring a London Taxi.
It seems there is precious little that doesn’t offend certain groups of Muslims. I believe before Lokpal or any other law, our parliament should now make a comprehensive list of things that offends and hurts the sentiments of some Muslims. The rest of us can abide by such a list so that these frequent intolerant protests can stop. Alternatively, they should make a list of things that doesn’t offend such groups of Muslims. I believe that list would be much shorter and easier to understand and follow. If this offends you, I am willing to negotiate.
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  1. wall-D

    ‘Imagine, if Shinde had made the same statement about “Muslim Terror” his house probably would have been burned to the ground on the same day.’
    Good point.

  2. wall-D

    ‘Amitabh Bachchan had to live the taint of Bofors scam for 25 years but he didn’t claim he felt like a victim in India. SRK has faced nothing like that and yet claims he’s victimised because he’s a Muslim in India.’
    Very much true.

    1. ank_16n

      Amitabh Bachchan is still facing protest from Sikhs in USA about Sikh roits(1984)….u forgot that…!!

      moreover what Bofors case has to do with Religion..??

      “”Makes me wonder how many movies should have been banned, theatres burnt and actors attacked because domestic helps in Bollywood movies are often named “Ramu Kaka”.””

      haha…kyu bhai Ramu kya kisi ka kaka nhi ho sakta kya??

      “”Poor Ashis Nandy! He made some comment about OBCs and Dalits”‘

      i think writer has wrong knowledge it was not OBC but SC/ST..
      while Ashis Nandy case is bizaare he said he was praising SC/ST..!!

      and last thing if u r making an article out of a statement of Shashi Tharoor then tell me one person even in the Govt. which take him serious..!!

  3. wall-D

    But i wont blame any community for this, while hinduism emphasize more on tolerance and philosophy. Having read Kuran, i can understand quite a lot the kind of perspective it gives to its followers and would like to discuss many of its verses. I wish someone initiate a thread and fellow members are open to discussion on this.

  4. danish

    pehli baat to ye ki apne thread ki support mein khud hi commenst likh rahe ho.

    secondly u r using a publicity stunt by shahrukh and a political/ business vendetta act of jayalalitha (kamal didn sell vishwaroopam rights to jaya TV nd Hence she planned this, nowhere else have muslims protested to o demanded a ban on vshwaroopam, not even in kerala where muslim league still wins some seats)

    thirdly u r clubbing the protests of dalits and OBCs with muslim protests.

    frankly this sounds more like an ‘urban middle class neo right winger’ vs ‘all others’ (including muslims, dalits may be maoists too) rather than a muslim vs hindu rant.

    let me tell u born in a muslim family, i am an atheist and a rationalist.

  5. danish

    @ank – the film is running happily in kerala for over a week and token protests by ‘me too groups’ dont count.

    1. ank_16n

      i agree……but u said this

      “Hence she planned this, nowhere else have muslims protested to o demanded a ban on vshwaroopam, not even in kerala where muslim league still wins some seats) ”

      that’s why i replied..!!

      one more thing if “u r using a publicity stunt by shahrukh ”
      than can i say Salman is using Hit n Run case and blackbuck case for PUBLICITY STUNTS..??

  6. danish

    how is salman using his cases for publicity?

    are they harmless controversies? no they can harm him, he can end up in jail.

    did he start them deliberately by writing an article? or calling a TV channel owner friend to inform he was strip searched in new york?

    do they win him the votes of his community by making it look like he is fighting for their cause?

    does he decide the dates of each court order, oftentimes coinciding them with the themes and release time of his films like sharukh?

  7. Alfa.one

    Mods this forum is beccoming more of communal forum instead of a film forum. The writer or the person know nothing about what he isposting. This bugger is only interested in posting negative articals or hate articals. He is only interested i making vertcal devide between the members of this fotrum. If faisal or fazal write sth then he start crying like a baby that AFTER ALL I AM ALSO a HUMAN BEING. If he is human then why not show it ? Why act like inhuman. I can relply him in the same moronic way but it will be in very bad taste.

    Please take a note of it, A strong REQUEST.

  8. ank_16n

    1. “are they harmless controversies? no they can harm him, he can end up in jail. ”

    for the past 13 years they are harmless controversies..!!

    2. “did he start them deliberately by writing an article? or calling a TV channel owner friend to inform he was strip searched in new york? ”

    but why he need Article or News Channel when he has car..!!

    3. “do they win him the votes of his community by making it look like he is fighting for their cause?”

    but he is not loosing the other Community which the man u had commented about earlier may loose..!!

    4. “does he decide the dates of each court order, oftentimes coinciding them with the themes and release time of his films like sharukh?”

    u forgot Sarabjit Singh Petition from salman before ETT while after the release have u heard a word about the issue..!!

    oh u also forgot Veer controversy in Rajasthan..!!

  9. danish

    @ank – oya! were they harmless? try spending nights in jail starght from a plush bandra apartment.

    cars are associated with accidents, not jeans buttons. car or no car, it was more of an accident than akshay kumar asking his wife to open his jeans button in public. show me a guy who says that was an accident.

    and a man in bad publicity stands to lose fans frm all communities, unless people refuse to belive they are true. if salman is gaining fans instead of losing them, frm all communities, its becoz of his talents and character.

    i thot u were talking abt his accident and black buck case! sarbjeet singh was at best a human concern, at worst a publicity plug with a positive thrust. no way was it a negative controversy that in bad taste projects his own home country as discriminating. in his sarabjeet controversy salman didnt even demnize pakistan, forget demonizing india. he just pleaded for sarabjeet’s freedom.

    as for the veer contreoversy we all kno a small group of right wingers in the state are after salman’s life and the same ppl who are asking for all kinds of charges for framing him in stronger cases were the ones behid the veer controversy not salman. and if at all that cotroversy cud harm trhe film’s business in rajasthan. and salman still dint write an article abt discrimination in rajasthan.

    as a result, today his films collect the highest in rajasthan. do u need any other proof of salman’s benevolence?

  10. ank_16n

    can argue with u on these points as well but kya fayeda jab aap kaalpanik baatien karenge—–

    WARNING—-
    saavdhan ab app jo padhne jaa rahe hai woh kaalpanik hai uska kisi bhi reality se koi sambanth nhi hai…

    ” if salman is gaining fans instead of losing them, frm all communities, its becoz of his talents and character. ”

    _________

    now u can start bashing me and and my Fav. :)

  11. dr.nick

    if salman is gaining fans instead of
    losing them, frm all communities, its
    becoz of his talents and character. ”
    Absolutely correct.

  12. Adrakh chacha

    @ank_16n.. email id ya twitter account h?? wanna ur id.

    1. ank_16n

      bro if its for fan fight….then i have no such ID’s to engage in fan fight…
      NG is enough for me, comment here ur view will reply…!! :)

      1. Adrakh chacha

        Danish ki bate bhai tu nahi samjh pa raha h, to maine socha kyo na simple words me explain kar du. email id hai kya??

        1. ank_16n

          yaar main Danish ki baatein samajhna bhi nhi chahata ..jaise woh kisi aur ki baatein nhi samajhta..!!

  13. Aditya007

    agree with @Alfa.One ,and I’m also Requesting to Mods please dont allow much these post which hearts anyOne in this film forum.

  14. beckett

    Funny..Again protests started….now on this article..phew….

    1. Alfa.one

      @beckett- ok, request withdrawn, come on u guy, discuss with me in support of this D’s post or if u hv sth else to add on. Come on …..!

  15. suprabh

    Adrakh chacha,

    I don’t moderate on NG anymore, so its not a notice/warning to you but just a request/advice. Did you really join NG, so that you can you can threaten people and ask for their ids to make them understand on trivial topics like these?

    and more importantly, do you think if you write something in an email to anyone, will they understand your pov, especially when the language would be crude? In cases like these, people believe whatever they want to.

    As I said before, I am not the moderator, so you may take my advice or dismiss it.

    1. Adrakh chacha

      Suprabh.. chaliye man li aapki advice, kya karu control nahi ho pata kaminepan wale comments dekh ke. aur aap log hamesha mujhe hi advice kyo dene lagte ho??
      waise koi bato se na samjhe to phir kya karna chaiye??

      1. danish

        @adrakh chacha – waise is thread pe ank ne ‘kaminepan’ waali koi baat nahin ki thi. i said something, he disagreed and had proof to the contrary and he posted it. so why get angry with him.

        1. Adrakh chacha

          its not about this particular post, leave it bro we will discuss it somewhere eles. waise i will ignore such type of people in future.

          do u have any fb or twitter id bro?? want to add u in my fb/twitter for long time.

  16. danish

    @ ank 16 -

    “saavdhan ab app jo padhne jaa rahe hai woh kaalpanik hai uska kisi bhi reality se koi sambanth nhi hai…

    ” if salman is gaining fans instead of losing them, frm all communities, its becoz of his talents and character. ””

    if salman is not gaining fans, from all communities, how come his films are becoming bigger and bigger hits, some of them with not even great content?

    and how is rajashthan his strongest constituency despite akshay playing ‘RATHORE” while salman plays a bihari (dabangg) , a delhiite (ett), nowher man (ready, bodyguard) and a mumbaikar (wanted)

    1. ank_16n

      I think u still didn’t understand what i meant…..i wrote that for Below part of statement
      “its becoz of his talents and character. ”

      Moreover Rowdy Rathore was based in Bihar….
      and Rajasthan doesn’t have only rathore community in them they represent less than 15% of Rajasthan population..!!

      and u forgot…after ETT(6 day weekend holiday)…
      RR(normal 3 day weekend) is 2nd highest grosser in Rajasthan not Dabangg 2..!!

    2. ank_16n

      For ur info.
      RR collected—-9.35 cr in Rajasthan..!!

      while
      Dabangg 2 —-9.20 cr Rajasthan…!!

  17. danish

    @ank16- so as usual it was the ‘subjective perception’ on the basis of which u were opposing my statement.

    on one hand u are saying rajasthan doesnt have any rathore community (the whole world knows rathores are from rajasthan) and on the other hand u are saying they are 15% (which is huge for just one cast)

    and so wat if RR was based in bihar. its all the more of a clap trap ( a brave rajashthani going to bihar and taking on the evil villain). but the ethnic identity of RR hero did not do anything bring ppl to the theaters.

    and a big LOLa for ur comparison of 2 years old dabangg with RR rajasthna collections.

    and are you trying to say RR collection of rajasthan are bigger than ETT?

    u must be dreaming.

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