1. Unregistered Street
    Unregistered Street
    January 5, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Fuk Pakistan and fuck ISI

    ..but why is Wall-D so hell-bent on discussing this topic. fuck this guy, whoever teh fuck he is. There will always be people like him from every religion, region and ethnicity.

  2. Tango
    January 5, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    @ Rohit & the mods.

    1) There was no harm in putting up this topic once in awhile. Members have already criticised and discussed it.

    2) BUT is this a new trend on NG? Because then others will put up such inflammatory speeches from the other side too and you know that it will lead a lot of acrimony and bitterness.

    3) I say it again, once in a while a current affair or such topics about hopeless rabble rousers or one related to cricket are alright.

    4) Also, I suggest we must check out the history of posts put up by members, and know their intentions of being at NG. Is it to discuss cinema and related topics or something else.

  3. Tango
    January 5, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    “This is specially in contrary to defensive commnets made by you about claiming congress being secular on the ground of MIM abandoned congress in November 2012. This speech was made in april 2012.”

    I never said that Congress is/was secular. That is a blatant lie.

    Just said MIM is no longer a part of UPA.

    And now I am putting in an official complaint against you.

  4. Unregistered Street
    Unregistered Street
    January 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    “Why fukk everyone? That is not the point”

    Not saying to fuck everyone. I am just not a big fan of Pak… and that’s all. And that’s something that I don’t hide, I m sure almost everyone knows here.

    But all I am saying is why do you badly want everyoe to pay attention to this guy. And please don’t make it sound like he’s the PM or President or something. He’s just one MP.. and as I said, there are MPs as hateful and communcal from other religions and regions too in the parliament. And not only in the Indian parliament, but there will aways be a few such leaders in every single parliamnt in the world. Maybe if this was a politics forum than every little topic would be discussed, but this is a bollywood forum, and the only time non-movie topics are brought here is when they are very much in current spotlight, for example the Delhi rape cases these days.

    As Tango put it perfectly, you put one about this Muslim guy saying something you find distasteful, another member will post one about some Hindu MP saying something the Muslims find offensive.

  5. Unregistered Street
    Unregistered Street
    January 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Tango “I suggest we must check out the history of posts put up by members, and know their intentions of being at NG. Is it to discuss cinema and related topics or something else.”


    nothing ruins a forum more than agenda-driven members.

  6. Tango
    January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Unregistered Street

    I will just say – The matter is sub judice.

  7. Unregistered Street
    Unregistered Street
    January 6, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    And finally, I watched this video 5 times and I don’t see what was so offensive about this guy’s speech. All he says is that the govt should worry about the fixing its own problems before getting involved in Pakistan’s Baluchistan conflict. That’s very much like what Ron Paul was talking about. How the hell does he sound like “acting on behalf of terrorist organisation”.

    Personally, I disagree with it, and support the notion of helping of Baluchistan secession from Pakistan. Not only Baluchistan, but also Pashtunistan (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa-Waziristan). Specially them. and for many reasons. First of all, for the sake of these poor Baluch and Pathan people. They live in their own country as second-class citizens. The disparity in wealth and development between Baluchistan-Pashtunistan vs Punjab-Sindh is ridiculous.

    Secondly, and more importantly, the Pathans and the Baluchs are much more friendly towards india than the Punjabi’s and Sindhis are. Perhaps, this has to do with fact that they didn’t go through the horrors of partition as much .

  8. Unregistered Street
    Unregistered Street
    January 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    btw.. an interesting info on the topic.

    When Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, frontier Gandhi, came to know of the partition to happen and that the Pathan region (at the time called North West Frontier Province and current Pakhtunkhwa) was gonna be handed to Paksitan he wrote a letter to Gandhi asking “why are we being thrown to the dogs?”

    There’s something about Pathan leaders and their love for Indians. Specially with the eladers of Afghanistan, whether it was Najibullah or Zahir Shah.. or even the current Karzai, they’ve all had an India-connection.

    And even with Bollywood. Najibullah, for instance, was huge Amitabh fan. Apperently, he never missed any of his releases.

  9. Tango
    January 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Unregistered Street

    I don’t take Owaisi and the likes seriously.

    Let me tell you his intention/plan (as they say ye baal dhoop mein nahi safed hue hain), abhi yeh speech hui, court case will take place, he will manage to get out.

    After that he will launch an all India party (as rt now MIM is only in Hyderabad), trying to cash in on this speech, during the next election, and some fools will vote for him (thinking he is their messiah), and he may just about manage 5-6 MP’s aur usjke baad he will just mint money.

  10. Tango
    January 6, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    If my memory serves me right, there was this Azeem/Azmi (dont recollect the exact name) character from Bihar. He released a very inflammatory cassette of his speech in early 90s. It was supposedly banned, but like all banned things it was freely available :-)

    He later became an MP (from Laloo’s party) based on that cassette, but once he reached the Parliament, uske baad uski aawaaz hi band ho gayee. But he got a lot of fame for being able to do dalali for stuck deals and proposals.

    The best thing is to just ignore such characters because the more we give them attention, the more they will benefit.

  11. ank_16n
    January 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Unregistered Street
    I don’t have any problem with Hate Speeches i have heard many of them but the problem with this one is his direct attack on Gods and Insulting remark on ones Religions Culture and their practices…

    This one is an old speech..
    the one this guy made on 24th Dec is one which is so so so much insulting and it can’t be ignored…!!

    and as far as u saying why giving importance to such speeches— the guys who made such speeches shud be put in his place as ignoring such speeches and guys can only encourage others to follow..!!

  12. Alfa.one
    January 7, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Is HARAMZAADE uwaisi ko life long (till death) jail mein daal dena chahiye. Aise jaanwaron ki is zameen par zaroorat naheen hai !!!!

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