SRK fans Please enlighten us how is this possible??

Usually I don’t bother writing this kinda articles. But today after reading BOI’s verdict for JTHJ  I could not restrain myself. So here goes-

(From BOI- Jab Tak Hai Jaan has grossed 91 crore after ten days and has done well at multiplexes. As with films like Ra.One and Don 2 the final business will not be as much as SRK starrers should be doing in the domestic market especially as holiday releases but the difference here is that its not a big budget venture. Although it was one of the event films of 2012 the costs involved are more on the lines of a Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara and Student Of The Year rather than a Don 2 or Ek Tha Tiger. SUPER HIT)

Can BOI give more crappier logic than this? JTHJ’s budget is more in the lines of Student Of The Year and ZNMD??
Seriously??
They want us to believe a film starring SRK(so called KING), Katrina (No.1 Actress currently) and Anushka(future No 1 actress) has less or equal budget as a film which has New comer Alia Bhatt and two new dudes (no one even remember their names.!) ???)

If JTHJ and ZNMD has same budget (again absurd to believe) then how come ZNMD released in one and half years back  is just a HIT @ 90 crores(last time I checked It was HIT) when It was a non-holiday release, shown extremely well trending?? And same time JTHJ is SuperHit when it released in biggest holiday period of Bollywood aka Diwali??
(considering JTHJ will do 115 crore final total.)

If we consider the competition factor, then I think ZNMD faced tough competition from Singham in its following week and still showed very good 2nd week collection (non-holiday period!). While JTHJ have no new competition  in week two. And besides on biggest holiday period with extremely favorable release size I don’t think competition is much of an issue for a big film like JTHJ.

Still if someone wants to believe JTHJ is superhit then please take a pain to explain why Ra-One and Don2 are Hit at 115 and 106 crores respectively ??? As BOI itself said and everybody knows that Don2 was expensive film. and RA-One was super expensive film. Both films were solo release. Both had Holiday advantage. (again two biggest holiday periods. aka Diwali and Christmas). Then How come they get HIT tag????

 

I want to ask SRK fans here especially likes of Jaspu and others who were batting for JTHJ(nothing wrong in defending something you liked IMO) but Do you believe in this verdict of JTHJ given by BOI? Answer very sincerely with you reasoning. in context of points I mentioned above.

 

P.S. for those who want to witness BOI’s biases here is the link –

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=5136&nCat=

42 Comments

  1. Aditya007
    Aditya007
    November 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    well Said @Topshot ,
    Also Another Recent Example with OMG ,which budgt was Only around 20Cr & film had done around 83cr Business at BoxOffice ,which is More than 4times of Its Budgt & also it was a Blockbuster trending Movie but BOI gives only SuperHit tag.

  2. Superstar sam
    Superstar sam
    November 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    its not abt boi its abt media manipulating srk starrer.. Forget boi, taran & komal will give blockbuster to jthj… As for ett diff well its happening with every movie theseday.. Question is whether taran\komal is hyping or boi underreporting.. Also boi rarely updates tue\wed\thur figs.. So no big deal

  3. Roy
    Roy
    November 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    BOI verdicts are like that only. Highly pro SRK. They gave a flop RaOne hit status and average JTHJ is given Superhit … Thats why their verdicts are a Big Joke. :D

  4. Yakuza
    Yakuza
    November 24, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Since when BOI taking consideration of Budget and price ?? Koi deen imaan dharam hai ya nahi .. This is what BOI explain in one of their pages.

    “All verdicts at BoxOfficeIndia.Com are given for the theatrical business judged against the release size which we believe is the best way to judge a success of a film. There is a verdict for Indian theatrical and International theatrical but no Worldwide verdict as it is difficult to judge two markets. A blockbuster in India and Overseas is easy to call but a Blockbuster in India and flop overseas or vice versa is near impossible to call correctly. All films are judged using this system.”
    http://boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=321&catName=V2hhdCBJcyBBIEhpdA==

    If considering only release size, JTHJ was much bigger release than SOS and not to forget JTHJ was released in high end collecting cinemas while SOS was released in chavanni chap bhojpuri chain of cinemas. Even BOI admitted all this.

    1. Yakuza
      Yakuza
      November 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      “The size of the release basically decides how big a film is, if a film releases on 1000 plus cinemas with 18-20-22 shows at multiplexes then it is regarded as a big film and the mark today (Sept 2010) for blockbuster business is nearly 50 crore distributor share. This does not mean that a film release on 500 cinemas with 9-10-11 shows per multiplex will be a a blockbuster at 25 crore as when a film goes over 500 cinemas then the cinemas become lower earning single screens. A film has to achieve a certain amount per print/cinema it is released on to do Average Hit, Super Hit, etc business. As the releases get bigger the lifetime share marks get bigger. Also some releases get big releases but limited shows at multiplexes and they have to judget accordingly

      If we get into prices and budgets against total revenue it allows for what is called a manufactured hit. Many films in India are made at low budgets at 2-3 crore and do bad theatrical business (sometimes zero) but with satellite and DVD rights they sometimes manage to make money which would mean they are success using the profit system.

      All verdicts at BoxOfficeIndia.Com are given for the theatrical business judged against the release size which we believe is the best way to judge a success of a film. There is a verdict for Indian theatrical and International theatrical but no Worldwide verdict as it is difficult to judge two markets. A blockbuster in India and Overseas is easy to call but a Blockbuster in India and flop overseas or vice versa is near impossible to call correctly. All films are judged using this system.”

      http://boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=321&catName=V2hhdCBJcyBBIEhpdA==

    2. Rosh
      Rosh
      November 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

      @Yakuza, since you are defendin BOI (I am surprised), please explain:

      JTHJ screen count: 2500
      SOS screen count: 2000

      http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/jab-tak-hai-jaan-vs-son-of-sardaar-screen-count/

      Also same nos reported everywhere else. We also know and you agreed SOS has released in 2nd tier screens where ticket prices are much lower.

      So avg per screen earning of JTHJ: 91 cr / 2500 = 3.64 lakhs
      Avg per screen for SOS: 75/2000 = 3.75 lakhs

      BOI verdict for JTHJ: Super Hit
      BOI Verdict for SOS: Hit

      Please explain how

      1. Yakuza
        Yakuza
        November 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM

        Am i defending BOI ? Where ?

        1. Rosh
          Rosh
          November 24, 2012 at 2:11 PM

          “Since when BOI taking consideration of Budget and price ?? Koi deen imaan dharam hai ya nahi ”

          Pretty strong defense of BOI .. c’mon did you get retrograde amnesia after reading my comment? :D

        2. Yakuza
          Yakuza
          November 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM

          Arre .. kya yaar, its clear i am asking that since when BOI considering budget and price for verdicts ? I am alleging BOI .. not defending.

          1. Rosh
            Rosh
            November 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM

            Oh achcha, it sounded like you are asking Topshot koi imaan dharam hai ya nahi .. like I said, I was surprised. Sorry, bhool jao.

            Whether BOI uses budget and ROI or release size, SOS is a bigger hit. Only way JTHJ is bigger hit is if you consider total nett. Maybe not even DS

  5. Kunal
    Kunal
    November 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Doesnt matter what vedict boi gives…the performance of sos has come as a rude shock to all srk fans who were living in their la la land thinking jthj would crush sos!! And also thosr who doubted ajay without rohit or his star value… !! :D

  6. Rosh
    Rosh
    November 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    SRK and his croonies want to have it both ways (pun intended)

    They will release in Diwali and then say people stay back home in Diwali so earnings are less. :D

    They will call him King and then say an Ajay Devgn starrer is a huge competition so earnings are less. :D

    They will say he is the biggest earner and yet his movies budgets are lower than newcomers’. :D

    Oh yea, he is the king who lives on subsidies from the UK government :D

  7. FS
    FS
    November 24, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Time has come to move on with time… We should start accepting Producers’ numbers coz each and every producer will try their best to show highest numbers for their own film and it justifiable coz every other producer does it. So we can’t blame any one producer as everyone are involved in this scam and when manipulation at its peak then we can find some other options depending on time…

  8. wall-D
    wall-D
    November 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Why EV is given above average inspite of doing 39 cr off 875 print release. While Jthj will not do even 3 times of EV(117 cr ) though it is released on 3 times print size of EV(2600).

  9. wall-D
    wall-D
    November 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    BOI is not talking about distributor share now. As, they know SOS has more distributor share afterall most of its business came from small centres and single screens.

  10. FS
    FS
    November 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    BOI has become famous due to NG…. Only people in NG and few other blogs use BOI numbers… Now even Taran/Komal are not taking keen interest to get accurate numbers from Exhibitors coz they know those numbers are always fudged and its better to give away Producers numbers as they are the one’s who receive final numbers or the exact numbers (they may dupe public with a little higher collections but not compared to idiotic commentary and verdicts to certain films)…

    Consider this A film that made 140cr Dabangg is given ATBB that came after 3 Idiots but a film that does 187 (Boi figures) doesn’t get ATBB status, why?
    Normally Boi and producers figures varies to certain few crores but in case of ETT the difference is more than 12-15crs, Why?
    The final verdict (hit/bb) doesn’t vary much from producers/taran and komal’s verdict but it varies for all other actors, why?

    And rightly so they should be ignored from now onwards coz more we produce boi numbers on blogs more traffic they get and more power for manipulation. Lets stop publishing their numbers and start publishing producers number for each and every given film…

  11. Kunal
    Kunal
    November 24, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    The numbers of boi is different for all the movies from taran and komal and not just for ett… Ett had 12-15 crore diff yes… But compare it with the anount it earned… 12-15 diff in total 187 crore… Look at the case of sos… Boi has 75… Taran/komal has 83… Diff of 8 crore in just 75 crore… So ett is no exception…

    Numbers of boi are fyn but their verdict and commentary is highly biased…they have their favourites and make sure to hype those in commentaries…and try to downplay certain movies… They are biased…

  12. ank_16n
    ank_16n
    November 24, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    I m with BOI for this JTHJ Super-Hit verdict…

    If a emraan hasmi movie with 43 cr Murder 2 can become Blockbuster
    Than His category Actor((Read Smooch King))
    can give a Super-Hit movie at 100 cr..
    What problem does u guys have.

    BTW is Barfii at 1006 cr still a Hit ??

  13. ank_16n
    ank_16n
    November 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    * barfii 106 cr

  14. sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    November 25, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Yeh toh boi ki rozi roti hai… How will they survive without srk’s pay check?

  15. sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    November 25, 2012 at 1:47 AM

    To save srk budget of Ra One was not considered and now again to save srk budget of JTHJ without srk’s fees was considered. A kya horaha hai

  16. dr.nick
    dr.nick
    November 25, 2012 at 2:02 AM

    boi have just made fool of themselves.they are considering jthj budget without including srk fees nd declaring it superhit.then dont akki fees in RR and declare it ATBB.dont include salmans fees in ETT and declare it biggest ATBB.this is ridiculous.how can jthj budget be similar to SOTY.if u consider budget how can RA 1 even be a hit.boi had themselves answered it in the ‘you asked it’ section that ra1 budget was 175 crs.then seeing the underperformance they reduced it to 125crs.even with 125cr budget ra1 cant be a hit.acc to this budget theoer OH MY GOD should also be a ATBB.so many unanswered questions.height of paid media.

    1. Rosh
      Rosh
      November 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM

      Well said Dr. Are you really a doctor?

      1. dr.nick
        dr.nick
        November 25, 2012 at 4:32 AM

        lol…:) yes m a doctor.24yrs MBBS at present.since u are so interested will let u know in 2 mts which speciality i join for postgraduation.

        1. Rosh
          Rosh
          November 25, 2012 at 6:34 AM

          Haha, as long as you dont turn out to be like our Dr Milind, we are happy with whatever specalization you select :P

          Good luck with your studies though

  17. Kunal
    Kunal
    November 25, 2012 at 3:02 AM

    Hardly matters wht verdict they gve…everybody knws including srk fans how underperforming the movie has been…what it was supposed to be… And wht it ultimately was… :p

  18. alizain2844
    alizain2844
    November 25, 2012 at 3:31 AM

    i m srk fan aur saray coments parh kar dar lag rha ha keh ‘u guys hate him that much’..

    Yaar yeh toh ma bi janta hun keh movie has underperformed.. Isslye ma srf overseas ki baat karun ga.. Hahaha..

    Yaar mujhay ni pta how to justify this par budget ma srk fee isslye ni coz he wil have share in profit.. So whats in that??
    I am also sure that he is nt paying for ths.. Usay agar records ki tensn hoti toh woh clash ko avoid karta..
    Aur yar plz uski beeizati na karo.. Its request.. Thanx

  19. danish
    danish
    November 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    oh its very possible under following cicumstances

    1. the editor of the website has to be gggggg…..

    2. the actor whose films verdicts is being given has to be willinggggggggg to…….

    and thats how two films with 100 cr diff in collections are have just a gap of one level – jthg super hit at 100 cr, ett blockbuster at 200 cr.

    anyways i have stopped taking verdicts from boi altogether.

  20. Fasel
    Fasel
    November 26, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Dhuaan Dhuaan…Her Jagah Sirf Dhuaan Hi Nazar Ara Hai

    1. Roy
      Roy
      November 26, 2012 at 3:42 AM

      good you finally admit srk career going up in smoke :)

  21. Kunal
    Kunal
    November 26, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Dhuan har jagah nh nazar aa rha… Kuch films ki performance dekh ke sirf uske fans mein aa rha h… ;)

    Cough *jthj would crush sos* cough

  22. sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    sanjeev-dabangg2-beats-ETT
    November 26, 2012 at 1:20 AM

    Where r the articles that said “jthj is a blockbuster in making” hiding now?
    Where r the comments that said “jthj will destroy SOS” hiding now?

  23. Serenzy
    Serenzy
    November 26, 2012 at 3:07 AM

    ” higher than Alia Bhatt n other dudes (still don’t remember their names!).”

    Siddharth Malhotra and Varun Dhawan.

    They were Good in their Resective Roles, Acted Out Well of what was reqd from them and Have Fab Bodies.

    Just can’t take a Dig at them just bcz they Started with Something like SOTY.

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