The Definition Of All Time Blockbuster And The Biggest Scales Of success
Confident in the knowledge that not only a huge part of trade within the industry but even journalists come to naachgaana and take a cue or two (example – so many questions we raise in naachgaana have been appearing in ‘you asked it’ on boxofficeindia) i think this is the best forum to start a debate on what is an ATBB and what are the most important scales of success to measure films/stars on.
i will start with ATBB or all time blockbuster 1st.
there have been huge debates on this for a long time, within trade, in journals and offcourse naachgaana, the last mostly being star centric, from fans to benefit their fave stars. as of now atbb is decided based on revenue, roi and inflation adjustment, amongst other factors. now some feel only the grosser that broke the record of last highest grosser shud be called an atbb. but it has its limitations. for instance
1. a hugely popular film like ddlj will lose its atbb status but dhoom 2 does get it.
2. maine pyaar kiya the biggests hit of 80s will lose its atbb status, that to by a miniscule margin of a few lakhs, that are always debatable in the non-computerized 80s ( i am sure bachchan lobby saw to it that it wasnt reported as beating sholay record)
3. gadar and rab ne bana di jodi become atbbs. even as kuchh kuchh hota hai and raja h loose it.
basically any vague film, that collects high after a gap of few years, owing to steadily hiked ticket prices becomes an atbb. and all becoz of a lack of many groundbreaking hit in between, that were unable to cross last atbb, just becoz they released too close to it. losers wud be ddlj, jai santoshi ma and sangam (deserving atbbs) and raja h, kuchh kuchh (undeserving ones) and off course dabangg.
if the current definition of atbb is changed, in my view it shud be the ‘inflation adjusted highest grosser’ with inflation calculated not on national economy inflation or wholesale price index but on ticket price hikes (for instance throughout the 80s there was regular inflation but no ticket price hike. on the other hand inflation between 2000-2009 was regular again but ticket prices in metros multiplexes increased by roughly 6-7 times, making the averaged out ticket price (multiplexes and ss) at least double or even triple in the later part of the decade.
so in my view if a film crosses the inflation adjusted gross (netts keep changing as ent tax changes) of last atbb , it shud be called atbb.
however even this method doesnt take care of changing market dynamics. thru the 80s bollywood lost 30% of its audiences to VHS-VCRs and even to expanding doordarshan. in the 90s there came satellite televiosn which almost took away 70% audiences over the next two decadesand later even internet made a small dent.
another way to define atbb cud be the biggest hit of the decade. but then again some supersuvccessful films released closed to the biggest hit of the deacde lose out (jai santoshi ma, ddlj, rattan etc)
so obviously more suggestions are needed on this one.
as for scale of success, most ppl keep quoting atbbs/blockbuster/biggest openers/superhits etc etc to claim the films they think are more successful. but in my view the most neutral (time neutral as well as changing business dynamics neutral) scale of success is the ‘biggest hit of the year’ as…
1. in any era everyone is competing in similar circumstances, so market dynamics are adjusted for.
2. inflation is adjusted automatically.
3. its a very numbers driven thing unlike terms like atbb etc. for instance you can put a value of 10 to the biggets hit of the year, 9 to te 2nd biggest, 8 to the 3rd biggest etc. and hence it possible to calculate many more things.
however this method has a certain limitation. the films released in the early part of the year have a disadvantage as usually films in the later part of the year will get the advantage of increasing ticket prices. for instance the freak case of december 2005 release no entry earning 45 cr and becoming the biggest hit of the year while january 2006 release rang de basanti earns 50 and still doesnt. however this disadvantage is star neutral as any star cud suffer or gain in this way.
so i think the best way to guage the sucess of films/stars is ‘THE BIGGEST HIT OF THE YEAR’.
as for terms like super hit, super AAA plus etc, they were very juvenile and untrained (in both journalizm and business studies) journalists like B K Adarsh (taran’s father ) and mr watever nahata (komal’s father) floated them and kept chnaging according to their covenience and later refused to adapt them to market dynamics. so the sooner they are thrown out of the window, the better it is.
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July 27, 2012
pyaareLike or Dislike:
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0@delight44 : it’s not necessary that a movie has to break the previous record by a margin to be known as ATBB. ddlj, rh, kkhh, dabangg are definitely HISTORIC classic hits. definite atbbs considering the money they made according to the screens they released in. you can’t have your own criteria for verdicts like danish. don’t tell me you are also a fanatic of aamir. when you accept BOI for collections ??? why this hypocrisy when it comes to their verdicts??? i simply admire aamir immensely but won’t stoop down to cheap levels just to hunt glory for him.
do you have to hate on other actors and that too MR. SRK and MR. SALMAN KHAN ???? why is it so ???? control nahi hota kya ???? aamir ke fan ho to thoda class to maintain karo uski tarah ….kitna ganda bolte ho
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July 27, 2012
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1@delight – biggest grosser without adjusting for inflation and changing market dynamics makes no sense.
2. crossing previous grosser with a margin??/ wat margin? who fixes it? dhoom 2 will become an atbb so also om shanti om and horrors of horrors rab ne bana di jodi (which idoubt was even a clean hit if u include srk’s fees in teh budget)
and i have nowher said biggest hit of the year is an atbb. u did not read carefully. there are two topics in this article.
and why only previous two decades? wat abt 80s and mpk?
mpk broke all records despite a decade whre half the cinemas closed and for ten years there was no ticket price increase (almost) shud that not be adjusted.
hahk again did it with a simlar track (though by now there was some ticket price increase over 80s) but the other films after it got the advantage (ddlj, raja h, kkhh, gadar) of hahk reving the industry and ticket prices doubling (in fact tripling by the time gadar came) shud not that be adjusted for?
u said crossing the last film with a huge margin. 7 years after hahk and a thre efold increase in average ticket price gadar managed to cross hahk by a cpl of crores. still u have a soft corner for gadar.
ghajini had the advantage of the multiplex boom, the economic boom of almost a decade. shud not that be accounted for?
i agree on 3 idiots though. it was an atbb.
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July 27, 2012
Delight44Like or Dislike:
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1crossing previous grosser with a margin??/ wat margin? who fixes it? dhoom 2 will become an atbb so also om shanti om and horrors of horrors rab ne bana di jodi (which idoubt was even a clean hit if u include srk’s fees in teh budget)
as i said Salman is just a msala actor and fans of masala actors dont make any sense.Let me correct you .
Huge margin means the margin should be substantial wrt to the net of previous biggest netter.
Biggest netter be4 GHajini was Dhoom 2 =80 crore
Ghajini broke that record by 35 crore and the figure 35 crore is very much substantial wrt 80 crore.
You cant say the same for other movies .
3 IDIOTS lead was even bigger.and why only previous two decades? wat abt 80s and mpk?
Repeating 1 more time.
MPK wasnt a Salman starrer at all due to the well known fact ->Salman was not a star when MPK released,not even a known face. All credit must go to director jisne sadak se utha kar star bana diya ladke ko.
MPK made Salman…hajam karlo is baat ko aur bekaar me sallu ko credit dena band karou said crossing the last film with a huge margin. 7 years after hahk and a thre efold increase in average ticket price gadar managed to cross hahk by a cpl of crores. still u have a soft corner for gadar.
Who told you about these three fold inc in ticket rate?
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July 27, 2012
Delight44Like or Dislike:
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0BOI is a chapadganju site who give verdicts to attract fanatics.
If they star giving real verdicts , they ‘ll end up giving flop.disaster to every 2nd star movie and lose thr fan/supporter base.
BOI is all about playing safe like Sallu is playing safe by doing all masala movies.
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July 27, 2012
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0@delight chawalis : so that’s the reason why you are so attracted to BOI???
Please stop quoting figures from such a chapadganju ( SHOCK !!HORROR !! i am writing this word ) site in future.
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July 27, 2012
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0@delight – perception is not a scientific measure of popularity, talent or quality. obviosuly no site bothers abt it.
hahk and hssh were huge hits and the former as much becoz of salman as ddlj was for sharukh and raja h was for aamir. as for hssh, salman deserves as much credit as aamir for his 3 hero film 3 idiots or srk for k3g.
i agree the industry, myopic as it is went by media created perception (that u subscribe to) and did not offer salman the kost perstgious of projects. but the viewer is above the industry too and most decided to amke salman khan their favourite. aur nateejaa aap ke saamne hai.
internet penetration in india is less than 10% so i can take their inputs as just that, one input but not overall verdict. for that boxoffice is the most comprehensive source.
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July 27, 2012
Delight44Like or Dislike:
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0Following on Social networking sites [followed by crores of people] is the only and best way to gauge the popularity and appreciation of/for any actor.
The number of [unique]footfalls for a movie is max 1-1.25 crore , and the number of repeat viewing is even worse[under 10-20 lakh],
such a minuscule portion[under 1%] has no right to decide what people like or dislike.
The only way is to measure popularity of top popular stars[that include BO] is thru imdb[quality appreciation] and social networking sites[ lond term performance appreciation]Social networking sites like facebook , twitter with crore of follower/fans r available to decide the real public opinion not based on subjective theories.
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July 29, 2012
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0but number of people who vote in social sites for bollywood movies is about 20,000…….Forget a crore not even a lakh
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July 27, 2012
danishLike or Dislike:
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0@delight – how is it possible that all movies are flop and the film industry is flourishing?
and even if all movies are flop the success ration remains the same for all actors, just reduces in magnitude.
for instance if salman has 30 hits and boi is prone to exaggerate succes by 3 times then that means salman has only 10 hits.
but aamir who has say 18 hits wud end up having just 6 hits and remains 60% of salman’s success.
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July 27, 2012
Delight44Like or Dislike:
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0Obviously the actor who is doing more movies ‘ll get more benefit of “manipulated verdicts” ,
More movies means more site-hits by fanatics means more supporter/follower base for BOI ,
with Aamir , he does 1 movies per year [and sometimes not even one], the pressure of attracting Aamir fans[cant use the word fanatic as artists have only fans/appreciators not mindless fanatics as in Sallu's case] is least.
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July 27, 2012
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0@delight – and wat are the numbers of imdb followers?
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July 27, 2012
Delight44Like or Dislike:
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0Take votes of most voted movie.
3 IDIOTS[40,000+] ,
Or take number of 8+ imdb movies,
or take number of votes thr movies get.@pyaare
Akshay fan ho ya SRK ke ?
Zara sb me jaao, yahan shock horror hai to vahan to kab swaaha ho gaya pata hi nahi chalega
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July 27, 2012
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0@delight44 : i am not anyone’s fan …just like aamir srk hrithik n good movies
chapadganju se bhi gande words use karte hain kya yahaan pe ??? gaali waali toh use nahi hoti naa yeh SB par ???? -
July 27, 2012
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0@delight – r u trying to tell us a joke? 2 cr ticket buyers who spend a disproprtionately high amount of money (as compared to net surfing costs) dont matter and 40000 imdb users do matter? wah!
@pyaare – u r not anyone’s fan just liek srk aamir and hrithik.
to humne kya salman ke ghar mein dera daal liya hai? hum bhi to usski films hi like karte hain. we also like his character which obviously u cant as 2 of ur fave actors (srk and aamir) have really bad one and one (hrithik) has a very mild one.
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July 28, 2012
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0@danish : srk has bad character? aamir has bad character? hrithik has bad character? kuch bhi bolte ho yaar !!!
They are the most respected people from the film industry apart from big-b and dilip kumar. They are good family men and have re-invented themselves with every new movie. Salman is still doing the same 80′s 90′s movies just to make his movies work and I am not even trying to malign his character.
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July 28, 2012
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0pyaare – dhyaan se padho. i did not say hrithik has bad character, he is just too dull and uninteresting. no spunk.
as for srk and aamir, they are the most disgusting manipulators and hypocrites possbile.
they are respected for their success and money (by ppl like u who respect success and money) one family man cheats on his wives with who ever comes across and marries them apart from fathering a child from another british woman and laike narayan dutt tiwari, refuses to take care of him (remember jaan khan)
the other respected family man cheat son his wife — with a man.
as for salman, he is the most respected by the ppl, the teeming millions who matter.
koi usse bhai manata hai to koi koi kaafir to khuda bhi keh deta hai.
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July 28, 2012
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0@danish : tumhara dimaag itna dirty kaise hai ….dirty balan se inspired ho kya ? gay bol rahe ho …adultery ka ilzaam laga rahe ho …dirty boy
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July 28, 2012
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1Salman k shera pe baht upkaar hai tabhi toh shera humesha uske saamne jhuka hi rehta hai.
Salman shera se itna khush h ki usse shadi ki jarurat hi nhi padi. Ab ko gay legalise ho gya hai phir bhi sallu miyan logo ko asliyat kyn nhi batate kya pata.
Waise tiger aur shera ki jodi khub jamegi . Kya bolte ho bhailog??
Mods- ab mujhe ban mat krna pehle danish ne start kiya aur ab jab baat nikal hi gayi hai toh dur tak jaayegi. -
July 28, 2012
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0Ye rahe Salman the great character ke aur kaarnaame:
He abused Saroj Khan during AAA:
Girlfriends[7-8 of those] ko maarta hai, co-actos se jhagda karta hai, vo to shukar ho oopar vaale ka ki ise Kaabil nahi banaya varna ND Tiwari jaisa hashar hota aaj, Saroj Khan jaise seniors ko gaali deta hai , chinkara/black buck ko halaal karta hai, Hit and run , connection with Abu Salem . verbally abusing BFs [vivek] of his Ex-Gfs,
Agar taarif karne baitho to 1 zindagi kam padd jaaye.
Mods- Ab mujhe ban mat krna pehle danish ne start kiya aur ab jab baat nikal hi gayi hai toh dur tak jaayegi.
Ab aise criminal ke fan ko baaki sab ke character bad lagte hai to bad hi sahi.
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July 28, 2012
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July 28, 2012
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1Agar impotent na hota to shayad Salman ki fan following sach me greatest hoti[with major contribution from his real offsprings] but filhaal 3rd highest se hi kaam chalana parega[THAT IS MAXIMUM HE CAN REACH]
For fan following better check twitter/facebook[comprehensive and most reliable way ] and for appreciation check imdb[only way of measuring appreciation].
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July 28, 2012
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0Lol danish, salman mostly respected by audience… Jhaag Jao nind mein se… Masala actor kbhi serious film karenga hi nahi… Aur tu kya aamir aur Srk ko personally jaanta hain jo tu unhe manipulators n hypocrites bolte ho… Salman is just a waste to thz film industry o cn nly do masala mindless mvies aur jo b karta hai remake hi karta hain.. Most disgusting actor ever seen..
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July 28, 2012
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0@danish: for ur dirty n cheap logics vich u always use to say dat Hahk is more iconic dn DDLJ.. Toh ye le tere liye.. On Facebook DDLJ page has 2,774,226 likes aur tera HAHK has 810,709 likes..
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July 28, 2012
RockyyLike or Dislike:
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1Hail Ddlj n lots of love to Shah Rukh Khan!!!
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July 28, 2012
PyaareLike or Dislike:
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0ROFL baap re baap itne bade bade dil-o-jaan se chaahne wale pyaare pyaare fans aap sabko salute !!!!
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July 28, 2012
danishLike or Dislike:
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0@delight – but aamir khan has just 2 clean hits in 14 years (1992-2005)
has just four clean hits in 17 years (1988-2005)
has just 9 clean hits in a carreer spanning 25 years.
@pyaari behna – ismein ilzaam kya hai. google jaan khan and jessica hines, see pics of jaan hines khan. usse maathe par, aur kaan par saaf saaf likha hua hai ki aamir khan mera naajayaz baap hai (as rohit shekhar wud say)
as for srk and karan, we all know.
@tituff – par pehle to kabhisalman aur shera ka kuchh suna nahin!
@delight – but ppl love salman. and aamir has just 2 hits between 1992-2005 (14 years)
@rockyy – if salman does ‘masala films’ was ddlj a ‘boiled film’? or was 3 idiots a ‘roasted film’?
and internet penetration in india is under 10%. hahk sold 12 cr tickets, ddlj sold 6 cr tickets, half of hahk.
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July 28, 2012
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0RNBDJ an ATBB ???
Very Bad article
Aise logo ki wajah se NG par aane ka dil nai kartaNo improvement in Danish.
Even Delight comments are very bad.
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July 28, 2012
VED-ZLike or Dislike:
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0ATBB Post 90′s
HAHK – History ( Above the status of ATBB )
Karan Arjun ( its ATBB not just BB)
DDLG
Raja Hindustani
Border ( its figures are always underreported its 40 + unadjusted )
Gadar
3 IdiotsGhajini and Dabangg are not ATBB
Jin movies ko 1 or 2 ya 3 saalo main hi fims overtake karne lage woh ATBB nai hoti.
Similar mistake people does when they tagged Aankhen 1993 as ATBB even when Mohra & Khalnayak does same business within the gap of just 1 year. Itni bhi kya sasti bani thi film.
Now after 2012 any fim of top actor cannot be ATBB at less than 190 cr
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July 28, 2012
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0Budget is not the only factor but also the ” netgorss as per number of prints released initialy. ”
90′s main jab top film 8 cr karti thi aur sunddenly 1 movie record tod kar 12 cr kar then poeple mitakenly tag that movie as ATBB
Similar mistak is done now when movies were doing 80 cr and suddenly Ghajini 120 cr and Dabangg 140 cr tagged as ATBB …. Completely Immature it is.
3 Idiots is the last ATBB so far. if ETT would do 190 cr then it can be ATBB
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July 28, 2012
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0@ved z – dhyaan se padho. i am countering the theory thats ays just crossing the previous biggets grosser makes a film atbb. i am giving the examples of dhoom 2, oso and rab ne as undeserving films that will thus become atbbs under this method. (rab ne just for 15 days as ghajini broke its record that fast)
@ved z- if ghajini and dabangg are not atbbs (which i am willing to accept) then nor are ddlj and raja h.
aankhein made around 25% more than mpk. its a 100% atbb. by any theory.
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July 28, 2012
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0ok Danish its fine abt RNBDJ and others as being undesrving one.
But Aankhen was not ATBB it is Huge Blockbuster thats it. Within just 1.5 Years KA did more than double of it . What kind of ATBB was that. Profit oesnt contribute 100 % to verdict but just 40 % .
And Similarly Ghajini aur Dabangg ko har dusri film corss kar rahi hai kaise ATBB hai ye. For exp the value of 1 cr in 90′s was more than todays 10 cr in industry. Like the time when top movies are doing 8 cr and suddenly a movie with 12 cr mistaken as ATBB . Similarly we are mistaken to count Ghajini & Dabangg as Atbb.
DDLG & Raja Hindustani were ATBB deserving one . And as compared to them, HAHK was History(More than ATBB) which changed the whole scenerio of boxoffice.
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July 28, 2012
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0@ved z – but do u realize after hahk the ticekt prices increased almost 40-50%. karan arjun had the advantage of that.
by the way which ‘doosri film’ has crossed dabangg? ghajini yes has been crossed by 63 films (dabangg ready bodyguard 3 idiots agnipath and rowdy) but not dabangg.
in any case wen u use term like ‘crossing, u look ‘behind’ not ‘ahead’
and aankhein had managed to match upto the collossus that mpk was.
and if u wanna declare just one film a year as atbb then even ddlj and raja ha are not atbb. least of all kkhh.
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July 28, 2012
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0Ticket prizes main farak parha tha but Mohra aur Khalnayak ne jo business kiya tha that time ticket prices were not raised. they did almost equal business.
And abt Karan Arjun if it would have the same price as Aankhen had. Still it would have done 18-20 cr if not 32cr.
Still a Big Grosser.RR,Bg are almost near (less or more) than Dabangg and now ETT, Dabangg, Dhoom3, Himatwala & Ouatim will definately cross it. 3-4 saalo main agar 5 films cross kar gayi then it measns verdict calcul;ation main jhol hai
Ye 100 cr ki fantasy calculation ne bahuto ko pagal banaya hai like during 1993 doing more 10 cr had mistaken by people.
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July 28, 2012
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0@ved z- but dont u subscribe to ROI factor? i mean kahaan khalnayak ka budget kahaan aankhein ka.
and karan arjun did it after 2 years of aankhein. after hahk not only was there a ticket price hike, but indsutry was again rejuvenated and families started going out in droves to movie theaters. the unique thing abt aankhien and mpk success is that they came against all odds.
and i have already said 100 cr club is a media conspiracy to undermine salman. its puts a 148 cr bg at the same pedestal with a 107 cr don2.
and as for crossing dabangg, i said earlier u have to look behind, not ahead.
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July 28, 2012
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0Danish I am still sticked to my facts
And I think it would be even better if we will study and analyse a bit more.I am considering all factors but iu want to consider them in more DETAIL AND Hardcore Quantitative Result … and will suggest the same for u. otherwise there wouldnt be any conclusion
Dont have enough time today . Is topic par phir baat karege aur Zaroor karege.
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July 28, 2012
danishLike or Dislike:
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0@ved z – ho sake to ek detailed post likho so all can give their views.
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July 28, 2012
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0An ATBB has to be an ATBB.It has to cross previous highest grosser by some margin taking into account increase in ticket prices.Dhoom 2 is nit an ATBB because it didnt even makegrossof what gadar would have grossed.Ghajini is not an ATBB.Ghajini ticket prices were hiked by 15-20% and it had holidays and 3 open weeks.And it had big advance as well.Ghajini didnt even outgross sik.
DDLJ,RH are also not ATBBs.They couldnt outgross HAHK.
I think the word ATBB is not right.We should probably use the word Record grosser instead of ATBB.
I dont agree that KA is ATBB.KA has always been over reported.And ticket prices were increased by 50% after one month of HAHK,and families started watching films again.There was a big increase in ticket sales after HAHK.
Thats why I have always said that Mohra is a record grosser in the 1990s in Action films.Its adjusted gross to ticket price and market expansion is underestimated.It would have done more than KA is it is relased at the time of KA.
I think only HAHK,gadar,3I are ATBBs.I might make an analysis of Salman,Akshay,srk in 1990s,2000s by taking their total gross of films if there is agreement on average ticket prices and adjusted gross.And there will be dedcuction of gross in multistarrers with big stars.
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July 28, 2012
danishLike or Dislike:
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0@sv – for that 1st the average ticket price thing needs to be settled for once and for all. boi manipulative inflation adjustment is getting just too much. there rate is not consistent, they dont know the difference between simple and compound rates and off course pro srk (in atbb business there can be no pro akshay bias as he has none) is rather visible.
and ur point on mohra vs karan arjun is ok to an extent but u must realize that the difference is 2.5 times (250%) but ticket price hike was just 50% on the upper side.
so mohra cant be bigger than karan arjun but yes films of 93-94 (upto hashk) might have been underestimated vs films of 1995 onwards.
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July 29, 2012
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0BOI is always pro srk.And their adjusted inflation numbers are exaggerated.Their adjusted inflation gross for 3I is 270cr.Thats ridiculous.There is no increase in ticket prices.And market didnt expand that much.BOI doesnt have any criteria to determine adjusted infaltion gross.They seem to put any number they like.
I came across this article http://vibhash.blogspot.in/201.....-kaun.html
In addition to this, movie tickets were raised from 15 rs to 35 rs for balcony and 10 rs to 25 rs for family.
Now this suggests a 250% increase in bigger cities,and in smaller cities the increase in ticket prices could be 75-100%.Later till 2001 I think there is increase of only 10% .But we dont have precise data on this.
I am not saying mohra is equal to KA here.It could be that KA gross came from bigger cities which had higher ticket prices.I think KA is over reported due to some reason.A revenge drama with love story grossed more than DTPH?
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July 29, 2012
PyaareLike or Dislike:
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0@ved-z @danish @sv : tum log “indian box-office trade expert” talent hunt mein try kyon nahi karte?? you guys have a huge potential to become the next taran adarsh and the next komal nahta of the new gen
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July 29, 2012
hatsoffLike or Dislike:
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0ATBB should be credited to the one which has broken previous highest film domestically offcourse or else the one that is highest in last 3 or 5 years (apt).
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July 29, 2012
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0“salman was a star who pulled audiences to kkhh”
Then what abt Shahrukh’s BO Pull for KKHH Post-DDLJ/DTPH?
“i like films on the basis of
quality,not brand positioning.”Nice Line…Even I do the Same.
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July 29, 2012
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0“salman was a star who pulled audiences to kkhh”
Its after one month of release of KKHH i came to know about Salman presence in movie . . neither posters, nor promos revealed this before. Even after watching movie after few months, i almost forget his appearance in movie untill salman fans put this movie against Salman name. KKHH was completely SRK and Kajol movie for me and all.
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July 30, 2012
Sanjeev-Ek-hai-tigerLike or Dislike:
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0@ yakuza even I agree that salman had nothing to do with KKHH….but does your opinion matter? Because in your opinion, salman was not there even in MPK and HAHK… Then how can you see salman in KKHH?
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July 30, 2012
rockie_EK THA TIGERLike or Dislike:
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0@Yakuza: Me and many of my frnds watched KKHH in second week that too ONLY because of Salman Khan ….
and cut the crap that you came to knw abt Salman’s presence in KKHH after 1 month….
It was all over the place by first weekend itself that Salman is in the movie … many reviewrs had also mentioned abt it …. ab itna bhi JHOOTH mat bolo …
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July 30, 2012
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0@yakuza…this is a fact 6 years ago
When I was in a hostel, I played cricket a lot.. But other time I always watched TV…. I have watched ddlj only once but KKHH many times… One day I and few other classmates were watching KKHH in tv while other frens were ready to go play cricket…since I was a big fan of cricket they asked me to join them.. I said I was watching KKHH and some of them said to call them when salman’s scene is about to start.. I thought they were just kidding.. Who would come to watch the end of a movie in the middle of a cricket game? But to my surprise all of them came to watch just for salman…
Most of the guys in my batch were fan of salman, akki and yeah some were abhisekh’s fans as well (no kidding.. AB jr was quite popular at that time)…. But none were crazy fans of salman……
Even though I don’t like srk, I must say that there were many girls who were crazy about srk… One girl celebrated srk’s anniversary as her own anniversary (some fans can’t just stop fantacizing -
July 30, 2012
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0Continued… Her parents were very rich, so she celebrated srk’s anniversary and birthday in a big way.., used to give cake and sweets to all her classmates… At least, I thought she was crazy about srk… I don’t remember if she celebrated her own birthday….
And yeah many of us (including me) were crazy about sholay… We were supposed to go to bed at 10 pm but one night we decided to watch tv till 3 am only because sholay was being premiered… And guess what it was compulsory to get up at 6:30 am during the weekdays…dice we were only kids, the next day in school most of us were feeling very sleepy in class and one of the teacher even stopped teaching seeing our sleepy faces… The whole class she told us stories…
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July 30, 2012
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0@sanjeev and rockie – do you guys expect anything but LIES of Yakuja?? Come on guys you should know by now how he operates.
He will say that he didn’t even notice Salman in EkThaTiger. Dekhna
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July 30, 2012
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0@naveed
Bhai I don’t really care what yakuza thinks about salman khan…me, my sister and some of my cousins are fan of salman and that’s enuf for me…
And no matter who says what, I know that after sholay, hahk is the biggest Bollywood movie till now… It doesn’t matter how many likes it has in fb, how much rating it has in imdb or how many people watch it today… It remains the second biggest movie for me ( and biggest solo hero movie just ahead of gadar) by some margin -
July 30, 2012
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0And it is natural for yakuza to feel unsecure because if HAHK is 2nd biggest movie and if ETT becomes like gadar or 3 idiots, then salman will be ahead of AB in giving huge grossers…
… yakuza is trying to undermine HAHK because he feels that ETT will be a monstrous hit…the only way he can put AB ahead of salamn in giving huge grossers is by undermining HAHK -
July 30, 2012
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0Yakuza knows that there is no way to undermine ETT if it becomes a huge it… Can’t say it’s heroine dominated movie… Can’t say it’s because of yrf cuz yrf don’t even have a 100 crore movie yet… Can’t say it’s because of director cuz kabir is only 2 films old with small successes… Can’t say it is multistarrer…
But he might give all the credit to the action director… Any way who cares? Some people’s perception change only to undermine salman…
And we all know what happens to a heroine dominated movie which is super liked.. It becomes superhit like the dirty picture or kahaani (which does less than 40 percent of the
biggest grosser till date) .. But new theories come out when it comes to salman -
July 30, 2012
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0@sanjeev – SUPERB comments above
some people will still find ways especially the ‘usual’ suspects. They will say film worked due to ranvir shorey. Or they might say the songs helped the film that too after calling the songs crap for weeks on end LOL
Show your faces on the 15th Aug.
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July 30, 2012
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1Woww, toooo much efforts by Sallu Bhans .. just one comment of me brought in so many reactions .. great !!
Chalo maan lete hain neither HAHK was Madhuri Dominated, nor KKHH was SRK dominated .. Happy ..
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July 30, 2012
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1ANd KKHH was announced as Salman Khan in lead in 1947 .. since the independence day, entire nation was breathlessly waiting for KKHH for Salman …. All Promos, Posters were filled with Salman and only Salman .. its only after one month people came to know that there is SRK and Kajol as well in cameos … but these were forgettable roles. KKHH will always be remembered as one and only Salman movie for me and all ..
Salman Bhans ki jai ho ..
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July 30, 2012
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0dude that was just to point out that your claim that nobody gives a shit about salman in KKHH is rubbish
We don’t want the credit that salman doesn’t deserve
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July 30, 2012
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1@Yakuza:
Itna exaggerate bhi mat karo …. either you lie or you have sarcastic comments abt Salman …. kabhi to SACH bola karo …
upparwaale se daro …
nyways upparwaale ne bhi tumse ummed chod di hai …. to hum kya rakhenge …
GET WELL SOON .. buddy ..
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