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Is The Tragedy Dead, Forever?


Isahqzaade’s boxoffice outcome can be interpreted either ways. many wud say that the lead pair dying in the climax  is wat stopped  ishaqzaade from becoming blockbuster, others wud say its the climax that saved it from sureshot below average status like ‘ladies vs ricky behl’ and added a lot of weight to an otherwise mediocre film qualifying it as a targedy.

for tragedy, since time immemorial,  has been the genre in which the greatest works of literature and performing arts have been produced. the best of shakespeare is tragedy (othello, hamlet, macbeth, romeo juliet,) so is the ancient greek literature (like ‘antigone’). premchand’s best work can be classified as tragedy (gaban, godaan, nirmala) so also ‘jayadrath vadh’ and a lot of epic poems by hindi writers.  i wud classify ‘mayor of casterbridge’ as tragedy, so also ‘dr faustus’ and ‘jekyll & hyde’. but somehow the audiences in the 2oth century, or at least in the later part of it developed an aversion to tragedy, an aversion articulated in screaming voices by the marketing gurus for their vested interests and it came to be stablished that ppl dont like tragedies. but is it true?

we will see whether suddenly the audiences became ‘frivolous’ and stopped liking tragic films or is something else the matter. but 1st tragedy in cinema. and we are focussing here on indian audiences as NG is a bollywood blog.

tragedy was the genre that flourished most as hindi cinema got out of the routine of mythological films and had an evolved ‘social’ genre. the greatest films of the 40-70s period were tragedies. i would even call ‘mughal e aazam’ a tragedy. Though nobody dies in the film, the lovers dont unite. ‘sholay’ was a tragedy in parts as amitabh bachchan dies and jaya bhaduri is left lonely, once again. so was ‘mother india’ clearly where a mother has to kill her son. ‘deewar’ has amitabh bachchan dying, so also muqaddar ka sikandar. Guru dutt’s most widely remebered films are tragedies though his tasted success with crime dramas mostly. most films based on legendary love stories like laila majnu, shirin farhad, heer ranjha were tragedies so also the contemporary ones inspired from them(baabul, andaz, sangam). and not to forget devdas perhaps one of the greatest tragedies of dilip kumar who became bollywood’s biggest ever star, dying in film after film like shaheed, mela, devdas, udan khatola, ganga jamuna and many more. come to think of it it was dilip kumar’s films that had a (usually forced) happy endings that did him in. in dil diya dard liya, instead of desotrying everything he satisfies himself with merely taking revenge on pran and is united with waheeda rehman (imagine heathcliff walking into the sunset singing a song). in gopi, sagina, daastaan, bairaag all the films where they had a happy ending, the audiences came out unsatisfied and the films flopped. the best remembered roles of amitabh bachchan are the ones where he dies (sholay, deewar, muqaddar ka ssikandar) so also of meena kumari, nargis, raaj kumar, rajendra kumar, madhubala, suriaya and many other stars.

 

infact in the 50s it was imperative for either the hero or the heroine (mostly both) to fall sick as the last 40 minutes of the film rolled on the deathbed. in fact in a lot of films this tragic climax was a rather forced one and perhaps that is one reason ppl started getting bored of it. two very frivolous heroes (in my opinion) dev anand and shammi kapoor had meanwhile a lot of hits thru the 60s to give the impression that tragedies were not working anymore. however there still were not too many huge tragdy films that had flopped at the box office. and since then everytime there has been a well made tragedy, its been a hit. as late as 1988 saw qayamat se qayamat tak becoming a hit and now ishaqzaade in 2012.

the market forces offcourse had a huge role to play in spreading the word that tragedies dont work. try to understand the intricacies. a film just needs to sell the tickets, to whoever (especially in those times of ‘even’ ticket prices)  to become a hit. but there are peripheral industries around bollywood that have other vested interests and for whom the ‘profiling’ of the audiences is very important. like advertising and media for instance wud want to cater to a segment of the youth that is impulsive buyer. the ‘mature’ tragedy audience may not be it’s easy victim/target. now this target audience will read film magazines (which were very powerful in pre television era) only if they are interested in films and they wud be interetsted in films if their ‘kind’ of films are made. add to it the fact that most ppl working in the media themselves came from the same audience group.  so media, especially english media (that are the opinion makers in the country) at the behest of ‘consumer goods advertisers’  spread the word that tragedies dont work despite there not being many huge flops in tragedy genre. And it started fizzling out as the film makers started believing the doctored version of the media. i mean so many comedies and action films flop but nobody says the genre doesnt work anymore, as both genres cater to the middle class youth. name one tragedy with as huge budget as say a shaan, that tanked at the box office. or if u take comedy, a recent tees maar khan. i think with the exception of razia sultan u wud find none. and razia sultan had many other problems, only two years before ‘razia sultan’ a tragic romance ‘ek duje ke liye’ had been a smash hit.

after english media, sometime in the early 80s, satelliet television, a much bigger manipulator than print, jumped into the fray. they also targetted the youth with spending power, rather impulsive spending habits, to be able to increase their income (thru ads) and therefore spread the word that old movies and songs, especially tragedies dont work. with satellite televsion being entirely dependent on the advertising amd marketinng industries for revenue in the initial stages, as subscription revenues were not coming in, it became much easier to force the advertisers’ wish (rather than the viewers’) on televison content.

however its nobody’s case that there were no larger socio-economic reasons for tragedy to lose out. two very important ones need mentioning.

1. change in socio-economic conditions of atleast the urban  middle class –  its common knowledge that films of distress, confrontation, etc are liked by those who are lower down in the economic strata while those who are comfortable in their lives like to watch lighter films. as an urban middle class became prosperous in india it did not need to watch a mother who struggled to find two meals for her children. not even a middle class  widow usually had that much distress in her life. and this segment lost interest in tragedies. as the multiplex revolution started this audience segment became the biggest one and if you look carefully 2000-2009 period is the one where there were hardly any tragedies made. i cant think of anything except devdas, which was presented more as a spectacle, rather than a targedy and still had mix results at boxoffice. so did tere naam, perhaps the most powerful tragedy in a long time.

2. change in demographics – younger ppl like to watch light hearted stuff while older ppl are ususally open to watching serious films, including tragedies. post 1980 as the population of the country got younger and younger there was less and less scope for a tragedy to find an audience.

however both these factors are changing now. the audience ‘lower middle class downwards’ are returning to cinemas these days and that means we may get to see again films on the themes like social justice, poverty, the rich-poor divide and therefore have a scope for tragedies to be made. also in the 2011 census the population of 0-6 years is less than 6-12 years. which means that sooner than later population pyramid will reverse (as of now the 70% of the people are born between 1980-2005) and as the ‘average man’ so to speak, becomes older, slowly but surely india will have a more mature audience and tragedy may after all stage a comeback. Not as a modest freak hit like isahqzaade, but may be as mainstream genre in the centerstage.

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    i am dying to see how ppl will find bias in this one.

  2. Alfa.one

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    @ Danish – Nice write up !!! Reason for happy ending and entertainment is due to the fact that people are fed up with day to day struggle and the best and comparatively cheap entertainment is cinema. One go for cinema just to get fresh and relaxed. Hence no one wants to come with sad mood and hangover of the film. That’s the reason, IMO, tragedy films are no more made these days.

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    Good post danish bhai.Aap to filmo ka ‘Wikipedia’ ho.
    Your most hated star SRK and Akki lived in Delhi(Your living place),Isse badi tragedy kya ho sakta hai?
    Kudrat bhi kya kya khel dikhata hai.
    “JOR JOR SE HASNA”
    “HAS HAS KE ***** KHATAM”

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    @alfa.one – but wenever a trend fizzles out, usually there are many movies of that genre flopping (mehbboba, anurodh, ajnabi etc discouraged ppl from making romantic films, agnipath, khuda gawaah etc discouraged ppl from making anymore action films, the falure of say films janemann, kambakht ishq, my name is khan etc might have discouraged ppl from making NRI dramas) but i cant think of any huge flop tragedies except razia sultan, still the trend stopped. that is intriguing.

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    @action – srk is a delhiwallah and infact lived very close to where i live. but akshay’s chandni chowk boy image is a fake, created one. he studied at don bosco, mumbai with sajid nadiadwala and many filmis as school mates. i guess after bombay scottish and manekji cooper, don bosco is the fave school of filmy types. he just created the image of poor lil chandni chowk boy through PR.

    in my case it is ROFC (yaani ro-ro ke xxxxx khatam)

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    sorry CMAO (ro-ro ke gxxxd khatam)

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    the biggest tragedy films are also still remembered.this kind of films come rarely.but they give us a good impact with lots of emotions.anyfilm having a climax where the audience feel oh,this should not have been happened,is a tragic film.even hum dil de chuke sanam is a half tragic film with salman crying and talking to god in lot of pain.even the audience connected with that scene as if they understand what the pain the charecter is getting.but in todays time very rarely we see tragic films.

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    @rocky6- i totally agree on hum dil.. as atragedy as the original lovers dont unite after all. but the moralists’ interpretation of it wud be the sanctity of marriage saved and hence its not a tragedy.

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    Fawwk next time plz write spoilers yaaaaar. I havent watched Ishaqzaade yet.

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    danish
    you are right
    the moralists’ interpretation of it wud be the sanctity of marriage saved and hence its not a tragedy.thats why i said that hum dil….. is half tragedy.even in saajan salman has to sacrifice but in that film salman knew about sanjay dutt love story before climax,but in hum dil de …. salman knew about his loss just before the end.he was meeting ash after long time and suddenly the tragedy comes.no lover can easily cope with that pain.its like almost the end of the charecter.but for me sadma was the most painful tragic end in any film.what do you thing

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    fasel – itne dinon tak isahqzaade nahin dekhi to ab kya dekhoge. tumhaara fun to spoil hona hi tha.

    @rocky6- offcourse sadma was poignant not only becoz of the fact that the lovers cant meet but also becoz of the almost animal level degradation of the protagonist (at the physical level) as he makes desperate attempts to remind the heroine of times gone by thru his monkey tricks, but to no avail. and wen kamal haasan finally hits the poll and falls down, the tragic degradation is like, complete.

    and watch sharukh khan bastardize this beautiful scene in the holi chase sequence of darr. u will cringe.

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    Danish: “Isahqzaade’s boxoffice outcome can be interpreted either ways. many wud say that the lead pair dying in the climax is wat stopped ishaqzaade from becoming a huge/clean hit”

    It is more than a huge / clean hit. It is a Superhit in Trade pundit’s book as well as by industry consensus

    http://www.boxofficeindia.com/.....e=earnings

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    @utkal – oh! ye kab hua? ab ye to sarasar yashraj ki chamchagiri hai. 45 cr pe isahqzaade superhit nahin ho sakti. 1 saal pehle aapki delhi belly with similar budget was declared just superhit. i think u must protest.

    on a more serious note, it sdoesnt make much of a difference to the write up. many cud say ishazaade wud have become a blockbuster iif it were not a targedy while others wud say it became a superhit becoz the targic climax gave the ordinary film some wazan. so it doesnt make a difference to the writing. only if isahqzaade were a flop, wud my case study have failed.

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    danish: i dfo belive with similar budget Delhi Belly made 60 cr 1 yr back and was close to a Blockbuster and JNTYJN witha much lower budget 4 uyers back made 69 cr and was definitely a blockbuster.

    But no one in the forum or anywhere else gives any credence to BoI’s ratings. so no point in protesting.

    But yes, your basic argument does not change with this. The impassibility of a tragedy becoming grand success like Mughl-Azam is practically nil today.

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    @utkal – but in near future we might have atragedy that becomes an atbb becoz of changing demographics and socio-economic profile of the audience. my post is also about that.

  16. Serenzy

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    Lovely Article…I like it wen u take the POV frm the 50′s Eras and den give us the Picture of the Devlopment/Evolving Bollywood over the years thru many Stars, Filmmakers, Technicians, Changing Audience Demographic & how Movie Making Technique + BO Changed over the Years.

    U must Write a Post on Changing Face of Indian Cinema(frm 40′s – 2012) and include as much as Possible Things in it.

  17. Serenzy

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    Btw, I have an Inkling dat Salman might Die in ETT.

    More Power to ETT.
    :D

    Even John & Katrina Die in the End in New York.

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    @serenzy – and how is ur mood now? gussa kuchh kam hua?

    kal aapki daant kha ke hi thoda sharaft waala article likha warna aap to mera nature jaante hi hain.

    and article on changing face of cinema covering all aspects may become so huge, it may turn into a book. most of my artcles/countdown posts do talk of changing face of cinema but covering subject in each. you can type danish+naachgaana in ggogle and see if u missed any that i wrote before u joined NG.

    and if salman dies in ett saving the nation and kat (as even i have an inkling almost like sixth sense though i dont believe in sixth sense in the filmy way) and if ett becomes a big hit, then this article will become almostr prophetic. and i wud so love that scenario. i like tragedies in litrature, performing arts and cinema.

    bas musibat ye rahegi ki jis tarah tere naam jab bhi tv par aati hai last 40 minutes mujhe nakaara kar jaati hai wahi haal ett bhi kiya karegi.

    ya katrina and john die in new york and it was an unusual case in many ways.
    1. it was not a love story.
    2. the core audiences for new york were the urban middle class, the well settled who according to my theory like light films not tragedy.
    3. it had very average performers, especially john. usually tragedies need at least the dying protagonist be be a larger than life performer.

  19. Serenzy

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    I like d Fact u din’t Mind much ppl Being Harsh on u.

    HAHK telecasted on Zee Cinema tonight…Watched it for 1and half hour(till dat Dhik Thana Song) and Loved every bit of it espc. the Joote wala part during Marriage.

    It remains one f the Best Movies ever made(Wayy bettr den MPK for me).

    BEYOND RATING.

    Told Mom dat it is the 2nd Biggest Hit in History of B’Wood…She Retorded by saying she had seen it Twice at Mumbai Cineplex when I was Two.
    ;)

    I like(a lot) reading abt the Analysis of Audience, their Craze abt Stars, Tastes of Films and abt Cinemas in General frm Previous Times.

    From DK’s Era to the Khan’s in End f 90′s, I want to know it all.

    Strting frm 2000, HR in KNPH ke baad maine sab dekha hain frm 12yrs but pehle ka jeetna padhta hun achcha lgta hain.

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    @serenzy – this is a virtual world. i know nobody knows me enuff to love me or hate me. so obviosuly all their gaalis etc are play acting, no real resentment. bas tum, suprabh and comefallinchat jaise log kabhi kabhi seriously senti ho jaate ho.

    have u noticed tashan my biggest rival here probably and me never have any personal resentment. in fact i percieve tashan as a happy-go-lucky guy who just chose the wrong filmstar to back.

    so here its nothing personal, just fun. ab kal GF ne mana kar diya to tumne mujh par nikaal diya, i mean gussa. koi baat nahin.

    as for hahk, ist status is legendary. yakuza may hate it but i will soon make apost on how its even bigger than sholay on many scales.

    i have a feeling u want to be a filmmaker. is it true?

  21. Serenzy

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    :)

  22. Serenzy

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    I can’t say dat I Don’t want to be a filmmaker but Parental Pressure in India makes u do a lot of “Wierd” things u don’t want to, but nevertheless End up doing but that’s just how it Works arnd here I guess.

    If *Well Settled* in Life den I wud like to give a Shot to Editing & Screen Writing.

    Those Two for me are like the Best Jobs to hv in Filmmaking Process.

    Baaki Acting k liye Bhaijaan aur Baadshah ko rakh lenge and Music toh apna Aryan hi dega.

    :)

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    oh aryan29 muscian bhi hai? i didnt know.

    in anycase start by doing experimental small films. buy a 5d or 7 d camera and for all u kno u may end up creating a paranormal activity or a blairwitch project.

  24. Serenzy

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    “a happy- go-lucky guy who just chose the wrong filmstar to back”

    “tumne mujh par nikaal diya, i mean gussa”

    SuperLOL Stuff this…Hahahaha!
    :D

    Jaane kahan gaya tha mera Sense of Humour uss din.
    :D

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    @serenzy – lagta hai koi akshay kumar comedy dekh li thi tv par.

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    Good one but you spoiled me on the end of Isahqzaade :(

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    tjhe best tragedy movie for me is tere naam and anjaam.tere naam was something else.while watching tere namm when nirjira comes to meet radhe in mentol hospital and she goes bach with out meeting i was saying loudly that look bach nirjira please look back.i was failed to forgot the movie for atleast a week.the first and last salman movie wich i watched more than 20 times

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    danish@you aree trying to say that ishaqzaade is not a clean hit?

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    @africa – now its a two months old movie. there has to be a time frame till wen u cant give spoilers. otherwise many may say u spoiled mughal e azaam climax for me too.

    @fazal – ya but tere naam came in an aera wen the popularity of tragedy ilms were at the lowest. i think both devdas and tere naam suffered becoz of that.

    as for ishaqzaade while writing the article i was under the impression that its a semi hit r sumthing like band baaja baraat as no one checks ishaqzaade boxoffice as keenly as a big film. however wen utkal pointed out its a superhit an i checked, i realized ishaqzaade has been declared a superhit at 45 cr which i think is a bit much. it may be a clean hit becoz of low cost, but not a super hit. last year a film like delhi belly with a similar budget and 55 cr was declared a superhit and ishaqzaade superhit despite inflation at 45 is yashraj pr machinery at work again.

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    Danish,
    I live in France this is why I couldn’t see the movie, I must wait for the DVD. But it’s ok not a big deal !

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    @africa – exactly. 1 hr into the movie i had already guessed the clmax. so wud have u i guess.

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    where is dwnpiyush?

  33. Serenzy

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    Danish,

    Just saw AP tonight on TV.

    HR Dies & again BigB Died in the Original too(like in Deewar,MKS,Sholay as u mentioned) but AP Not a Success wid Bachchan and as did Pacino(The Great ‘Tony Montana’ in Scarface) die which is Supposd to be the ‘Inspiration’ fr AP!

  34. Serenzy

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    Danish,

    ur take on ‘Titanic’ please???

    Not Class Bias Pseudos, BO and Shit like that…Ur Own/Personal take on Titanic?

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    @serenzy – i feel agnipaath was more of crime drama than tragedy but then the protagonist dies and it does afterall qualify as tragedy, i mean both versions. in any case i had mentioned there were hardly any comedies during the decade 2000-2009 and both these films came outside of that decade. i found hrithik roshan’s agnipath bearable in parts but amitabh’s agnipath was insufferable becoz it was boring and bachchan hammed like hell. hrithik, himself prone to overacting for ‘special’ projects wheer he puts in ‘extar effort’ was surprisingly controlled in agnmipath.

    as for titanic its one of the greatest tragedies in the world cinema i thi8nk. this becomes even more significant becoz in my opinion the 1st 1 hr plus of titanic was pathetic and a waste of screentime. but the second half had so much class, wazan, dignity, it just became the greatest tragedy.

    by teh way i feel my commenst wud be shit if they did not have perspective by analyzing class bias of pseudos, and did not analyze boxoffice data. even in case of titanic i have confidently called it the greatest tragedy (my view is the same) becoz of the endorsement of ticket buying public.

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