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The “Mediocrity” with a face:Aamir Khan!
milind | February 20, 2012, 12:00 AM | 55 comments | 1,711 views


My next upcoming piece.A long detailed note on the major aspects where Aamir has failed immensely and why inspite of a radical makeover and commanding respect,he will never be iconic in any sense,neither a true cinematic great.

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  1. milind

    It is a shame that a few souls consider him equivalent to Guru Dutt.Shame.Utter Shame!

  2. kjt

    Please Milind,
    don’t write anythign about Aamir. It’s a universal truth you not only dislike him, you simply hates him. So, anythign that comes from your keyboard is prejuducied, and will create unnecessary series of idoitic comments and articles. You writing an article on Aamir is like Ashok Mitra (economist turned communist ) writing about America. Serves no purpose. Unless you want to create a history with a aritcle that gets maximum number of comments.

  3. milind

    KJT,

    Or is that your are selectively biased towards Aamir..why not see the other side of the coin…you too are a part of the equilibrium :D

    Regards comments and views–I have ample share of them here on NG..I do not write articles for some comments and views nor will my post be an idiotic rant like Danish’s nor has it been ever. :D

  4. Talaash

    Waiting eagerly for d BB thread :P

  5. Ihab

    Just when I thought we could be friends…

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  6. kjt

    Milind,
    There is no comparison between my possible biasness towards Aamir and your hatred towards him. NG has ample proof of that. The problem is you have made yourself so clear about your biasness against Aamir, even if you write great things about him people will read that with a pinch of salt and question your intention.

  7. kjt

    Also Milind,
    would you please first write a article on “Who is not Mediocrity” in Bollywood (i guess your comparisons are against Bollywood people only), that way it will be easier to understand your article on Aamir. Aishe bhi tum bhari bharkam words likhte to :)

  8. KM

    Milind

    I think SRK as an actor is better than Aamir when in the right movie but Aamir has whizzed past him by investing in quality movies and not abusing the audience trust. I was so disgusted by Ra1 that I walked out after 5minutes……it was pathetic coming from SRK who had invested so much time and proclaimed that this was going to be something never seen before. All I saw was a lame movie. I only felt that way when I went to watch SIK, Thank you and Housefull,,,,,I felt they were regressive cinema and the audience were being cheated because the script was awful. I expected something more from SRK in Ra1 but he really let me down.

    Don2 was better but the knock-on effect from Ra1 hurt him as a BO star and the need for him to change is greater and I dnt think working in a love story with YRF will help him sustain his star power.

  9. superman

    i agree with the post aamir khan is way way over-rated i mean this whole genius mr perfectionist tag etc etc is a farce ok he had a good decade post 2000 but i ask where was the genius in him when he was turning down roles such as darr and doing movies like mann nd mela?? most his 90’s movies where appalling apart from maybe 3-4 he had no superhits blockbusters apart from raja hindustani which when i see on tv re runs these days is painfull to even sit through. gulaam nd sarfarosh where strictly average at box office. Even dil hi ke maanta nahin wasnt a big success (although i rate it amongst his top 10 movies and enjoyed it) In the 90s he was mediocre. As for lagaan when you look at its box office collections compared to gadar dispite all the hype nd media nd critics going crazy about the movie the audience still chose gadar and i doubt there are many peeps that represent the mass audience would class it as a masterpiece. anyway he is a good actor but i feel he has really had a huge push post 2000 from the media a similar push they gave srk in the 90’s. That media push really paid off after 9 years or so tzp and gajini (dispite all the media backing rdb wasnt a huge success and as far as im aware earned as much as SRK’s hugely slated don at that time)i feel got to where they did cos of media nd critic backing and both are hugely over-rated they are 1 time watch’s in my book and im sure in most indians books too. He is way way over-rated and i feel the mass audience wont buy all the media and critic hype that talaash will create as they expected much more from tzp.gajini and 3 idiots. Although 3 idiots has its moments for me it isnt a patch on hirani’s munnabhai movies. Anyway i predict 2006-2009 will go down as his prime years he wont touch them box office heights nd i dont think the mass audience will buy all the media nd critic hype like they did before, he wont go down hill and talaash nd movies he does for the next say 7 years will gross good-decent numbers but out of the khans he will be the 1st to loose his superstar status and putting him in the league as the other to big khans or legends like bachan, dilip kumar and guru dutt for that matter really takes the piss for me he is more on the lines of manoj kumar.

  10. Harsha

    @milind – Why so much hatred towards Aamir?

    When they say he is a “Perfectionist” probably they mean he has perfected the art of making “perfectly” entertaining movies.

    Few examples of Aamir being perfect –

    1. Playing a college student in 3I at the age of 44 – Firstly, he did not look old. Secondly, his body language was perfect(fidgety, restless). I have seen many of my college mates like him. SRK played college student in KKHH but he did not look a bit like college student in it. He definitely looked 30+. Though, we all loved KKHH and just ignored/accepted that as cinematic liberty

    2. Playing a punjabi in RDB – I find many people saying Aamir was OTT while playing a punjabi in RDB. I am a south indian and mostly I have seen punjabis in YashRaj type movies. If I use that as reference, Aamir was a perfect punjabi. SRK played south indian in Ra.1 and he reduced that character to caricature. Yes, we say Ayyo but not always. Yes, we eat curd but not with noodles :). But, if Ra.1 was a slapstick comedy, even this could have been ignored/accepted as cinematic liberty but unfortunately that was not the case

    3. Ghajini – Now, This is a movie that suits Salman Khan and not Aamir Khan. But, Aamir built body to suit that role and simultaneously he built the hype around the movie so that people would accept him in such role. Thats the reason it crossed 100+ crores. SRK too got 6 packs for OSO (which is also amazing and involved lot of hard work). But OSO would have made same impact (BO wise) with or without his 6 pack. The difference here is, Aamir knows when to do what.

    So, when people say Aamir is a perfectionist, it means, Aamir is perfect in convincing his audience to believe in his vision(cinema/movie).

  11. milind

    Kjt,

    Already worked up.kyun bhai.typical aamir fan.sad!!

  12. danish

    @milind – not only you are the soul judge of ‘quality’ of movies, actors, music but even of the posts written here in which u urself are soem sort of a ‘contestant’ uska faisla to readers ko karne do na, with number of views.

    @suprabh/rohit – which reminds me how come the number of views display has been done away with. was it becoming too much of democracy?

    on topic – yes aamir is overprojected by a part of the media and some fans but it does not stick. he has not been able to ‘manipulate’ mi(li)ndspace like sharukh. in any case i agree sharukh is better on the basis of number of footfalls just like salman is ahead of shahrukh on the same criterion. however between the two (srk-amir) i find aamir less irritating on screen and more irritating off it while srk is more irritating on screen (for me) and is mildly entertaining on tv interviews etc occasionally.

  13. Jasp the Wasp

    Aamir is not over-projected by the media, and neither is SRK. Milind, all this crap is make-believe stuff created by vested interests, much like the shit that SRK buys awards etc.

    @danish

    LOL less irritating eh? Again, “manipulating” mindspace is a great lie publicized very well by the haters; SRK must be very good in the concept of “inception” to manipulate people’s minds to like him. Wonderful logic presented to justify anything, even if its too idiotic to talk about. Neither SRK nor Aamir are “irritating” on-screen, IMO.

  14. danish

    @jaspthewasp – i clearly said less irritating ‘for me’.

    and if srk doesnt manipulate to zara baatao kya ra1 ke liye awards lete huey usse zara bhi sharm nahin aati?

  15. Phoenix

    LOL. Milind is back to trying to irk Aamir fans again. :D

    He has appreciated several Aamir films with his usual hyperboles, if not the actor himself. Lets see what he brings on as points…

  16. joey222

    mediocre is the optimum standard in bollywood right now…its upto the rest to achieve it..aamir khan sits comfortably on top wen it comes to quality..even though tht quality is mediocre..comeon srk buckle up…its been long time since u have been mediocre..ur performances have been well below mediocre :D
    “only sex and srk sells “is being replaced by a new slogan-
    “only salman and mediocre sells” :D

  17. joey222

    on another note..how r u milind bro? :D

  18. Bilawal

    @Milind

    Har ek baat pe kehte ho ke tu kyaa hai
    tumhii kaho ke ye andaaz-e-guftagu kyaa hai

    :)

  19. milind

    Joey..m fyn bro.

    Aamir and quality…well see how I tear this theorem apart soon.

    Salman is selling before his graveyard journey..he was being raped for ten years..ye san has malham hai.:D

  20. milind

    I meant ye sab bas malham hai. Lol!!

  21. dwnpiyush

    Milind, if I had not known you or your writings at all- one look at any write-up of yours (filmy/non-filmy) and I would have made out that you are a SRK fan (in fact it happened 7-8-9 months back when I visited NG). Same goes for others. You remember I told you once that Fenil Seta is a big SRK fan, and that I could make it out from his writing style. You remarked that it is just my speculation. But later Fenil has mentioned at more than one place that he is indeed a big SRK fan.

  22. milind

    I also recognise Salman fans with eyes closed.. :D

    They never talk about quality or ten years. :-)

    How are you and where are you now-a-days!

  23. dwnpiyush

    We don’t talk about quality because we don’t think we are able enough or all-knowing enough to comment on things with such authority and pompousness. Humility and honesty (be it emotional or intellectual) are two qualities we value above all :)

    On ten years, well I made an entire post to disrobe the agenda behind this oft-repeated misnomer. When now SRK fan had any reasonable retort or observation to make, they went personal- as always.

    http://www.naachgaana.com/2011/11/20/salman-khan-2000-2009-the-dark-decade-or-three-pathetic-years/

    But well I should have expected it. Isn’t it? :)

    I am good. Just enjoying the last few days of my MBA. Job starts in June, before that intend to roam about a bit in India.

  24. milind

    Lack of points to bring out the quality aspect cannot be camouflaged behind humility and honesty.In the same vein as you are not disposed to understand the quality of a star/film..so should you all accept that you all do not know an iota about terms like legend and iconic and patronizing population or popular culture.With films like Yuvraaj and LD more than films like Wanted/Dabangg in repertoire you all dare not talk about quality. :D :D

    I knew you will give the link to that post and I would request you to see the comments there,which also when not personal have adequately responded to your concerns and gave a true picture instead.And no one goes more personal tha Salman fans..examples rampant on NG. :D

  25. dwnpiyush

    That’s just it. You believe that there is a lack of points. I do not. That’s the only difference. No I never said that I know ‘an iota’ about terms like legends, icons etc. In fact I said very categorically in your thread that I will never attempts such lists- for such lists are more about perceptions that anything else. And we always tend to look at the past with much more reverence and fondness. That’s why you said Aamir is not a patch on Guru Dutt. I pray, can you state the reasons for this statement. For whatever I know of Guru Dutt- he made 4-5 memorable films in a short career. Memorable today, seen fondly today. I have seen Pyaasa and intend to see Kaagaz ke Phool soon. Yes Pyaasa was very good, but as far as I know both these films were semi-autobiographical. They were bound to be well made.

    Quality is subjective. To me a KANK is a good film, to most I know it is not. But like I said I don’t believe I am a higher being than others, so I refrain from putting across my views as words cast in cast iron. :) :)

    On that thread-
    I request, can you point out the reasonable comments you are talking about. Or better make a comment yourself.

  26. joey222

    milind..still salman is selling like srk has never done before…salman has reached heights srk has never reached…srk ddlj couldnt beat hahk..ra1 n don 2 couldnt beat bodyguard..this is just boxoffice
    about quality swades inferior to lagaan…both performance n movie quality wise..only movie of srk tht can stand up to aamir’s collection of good quality movies is chak de india…and tht too is completely overshadowed by aamir’s gem 3 idiots..both quality n boxoffice wise..he lags behind salman in terms of pure mammoth boxoffice hits..n behind aamir in terms of pure quality movies..whatever he does..salman outshines him boxoffice wise n aamir outshines him quality wise..

    n salman aamir n srk all are near the end…while salman n aamir are going out wid the biggest of bangs..srk seems to be going out in a whimper…hopefully he too can muster up some energy to end his legacy wid a bang :D

  27. milind

    “still salman is selling like srk has never done before”

    SRK is selling for now 20 years dude..and with two recent films with over 200 WW collections,he is still going strong consistently..unlike a certain Salman who has spent half of his career in the darkness of dungeons. lol.

    “salman has reached heights srk has never reached”

    Again,zenith is a term that has been defined by SRK for over 90% of time in past twenty years..and you say Salman has reached heights!! Yes he has reached heights..Heights of Utter Mediocre attempts”..Should i begin counting…. You might have a severe heaviness of the chest. So I will pardon you here.

    “DDLJ couldnt beat HAHK”

    Yes on BO it couldn’t…but as an iconic film it stands miles ahead of any film in the 90’s..and an inch ahead of Satya.It gave a character that became a synonym of romance.It re-kindled romance with a zeal unmatched.HAHK didn’t do even an iota of it.Take that!!

    “Ra.1 couldn’t beat BG”

    Many of Salman films have done 40% of SRK’s films business in past ten years..some havnt even crossed the double figure mark.Am i making the chest pain dude!!

    “Aamir’s collection of good movies”

    The post will clarify the myth.And an actor who for more than 75% time in his career has been doing mediocre films cannot be some Capra and Rosellini with 2-3 good films.SRK had a KHKN,Darr,Baazigar,DDLJ when Aamir had Dil,Ishq and Tum Mere Ho.Anyways,leave it for the essence of the post I am going to make.

    CDI standing upto Aamir’s films…

    No baby,no..it is a weak product..I have never included it in my list of any order based posts..Paheli can itself dazzle many of Aamir’s films just by its colour display. :D

    Aamir’s 3I stuff:

    3I has done mammoth collection.Agreed.It is a quality product.Disagreed.Is it enteratining.Yes it is.

    SRK is phasing out…

    If a murderer can make a decent comeback after ten years of imprisonment..a lion with consistency unmatched at BO can anyday make your actor piss in his pants.So take it easy dude!!

  28. milind

    Yes I believe there is lack of points.Had that been we would have seen posts on it.Currently Salman fans have been celebrating the decent comeback of Salman.Not too long ago he was a dead horse on Bo mainly beacuse of his “quality” movies like LD,Yuvraaj,Marigold,Saawan and much more.

    Last ten years of Salman was a nightmare in context of a so called superstar.Yes it was good enough if we consider Salman equal to likes of Suniel Shetty.Do I need to single out comments..all comments are indicating at the same point that your truth was fabricated.Salman is not worthy of being called even a star if we consider last ten years where even Abhishek’s Guru at one point of time was doing much more than many of his films. :D

    Aamir is not a patch on Guru Dutt.The point will be elaborated later on in extension of this post.And it takes may be 5 films to be a cinematic great if films meet many criteria to be a great one.Case in example–Nolan,Kubrick. :D

  29. dwnpiyush

    Milind, I frankly don’t visit NG as much as you do I think. But I don’t remember any instance where any Salman fan has gone personal against any other member first. Thoda bahut jo hota hai retorts ke form mein hota hai.

    Do you think Danish goes personal against any member? He has some twisted points to make always- and when no one has any rational retorts for him- they go personal against him. I don’t agree with a lot of things he says, but I have NEVER seen him go personal against any member.

    While I have seen you abuse him a lot on fb and maybe here too. Recently there is a new member Jasp-thewasp who gets flustered and goes personal very often. On my thread that you knew I would mention, you can see people like Shilac and Raj and a few other SRK fans too I believe enjoying themselves when I was not there to reply. I was labelled as a ‘fanatic in the garb of a neutral’ by people with whom I have had no interaction. The second or third post I made on NG was on Salman Khan’s top 10 performances according to me- and there I clearly stated that I am bhai’s bhai. Some people have Raj had some kind things to say on some of my earlier movie posts- and then fell just short of abusing me on this thread (or worse). When all this while I had never interacted with him. Don’t even care who he is. All two-faced people- all SRK fans by chance??

    Ek baat padh lo saare comments jo wahan hain. You might think the same way as these Shilac and Raj and aaravind something do. I hope you do.

    “all comments are indicating at the same point that your truth was fabricated”

    You still don’t have a reasonable observation to make on the post. The fact it is absolutely factual. All facts from the same source.

    “Salman is not worthy of being called even a star if we consider last ten years where even Abhishek’s Guru at one point of time was doing much more than many of his films”

    You make statements like these and call my post fabricated truth. Sir, your star’s big budget solo films like Asoka, One two ka four etc. did lesser business than most films released that year.

    Anyway we are drastically different people. I don’t know if it matters to you or not, you have lost almost all respect in my eyes by some of your recent posts on facebook etc. But i will still await some of your posts, because kuch bhi keh lo- you do write well sometimes. Ciao

  30. superman

    lol sum1 just said somthing about sunil shetty and salman and actually thinking about the two i feel sunil’s top 5 movies can actually match salmans loool damn i never realised this before. i mean salman’s top 5 movies fthat will probs be regarded as classics after 15 years or for me would consisit of mpk,hahk,saajan,wanted and dabang actually thinking of it i think he only has 7 memorabale movies so add judwaa and pyar kiya toh darna kya along with jeet so 8 movies that could probabily still be watched in 15 years. nOW SUNIL’S MOHRA,bordar hera pheri,kaante, gopi kishan,dhadkan and dus i think sunils actually matches salmans thats funny loool and makes salman look very mediocre indeed.

  31. milind

    “I don’t agree with a lot of things he says, but I have NEVER seen him go personal against any member.”

    Danish and not going personal..he was the one who made a post full of abuses like behen ki laudi and behenchod etc.I will be frank.He wrote–gaand jali kya teri..ungli hui..he also wrote–Mahachutiya member etc.Very recently he has been snubbed down.So let us not make a point there.Uska kachcha chitta sabke paas hai.Regard his twisted points,most have come to agree its post delusion psychosis. :D

    “While I have seen you abuse him a lot on fb and maybe here too”

    Have i abused you on fb? If no,then in all humble request,it is none of your business.Regards abusing on NG..thoda moda retort me ho jaata hai..hai na!! :D And aapki aankhein to band hai Danish ke liye as internally you love him for his brainless twisted comments.

    If you can have an idea about me via FB where i havnt abused you anyhow..Raj ji and Shilac had ideas about you wrt NG and considering you can make opinions based on some FB,they have full rights to make opinions about anyone based on NG,the place where direct interaction happens. I may not agree with them but can’t object to them having opinions.

    Double faced-ness is when you are a neutral in the garb of an intellectual.According to you I abuse a lot,According to many I write well..how am I a double faced man–i say things with a thumping chest and stand by it. Are all Salman fans idiotic by birth or they are susceptible to illogical summation of happenings.

    I care a hell if you lose respect for me..I had lost it long time ago when I saw you grow into a fanatic from the man who used to write some Recall posts.And also when you indirectly started using Danish’s twisted theories to suited your arguments when you had none to offer.Loss of respect is mutual but also higher from my side.

    Regards,my stars big budgeted films doing lesser..atleast tey were not as ingloriously bastard as some MAMK and SKPGY or Marigold that were DOA at BO.SRK films never have faced this thing.Point made.Thanks.

    Regards..my posts..yes i write well..you are free to read what you want..but remember if you have the right to make opinions..others can make opinions about you and also might be correct about you most of the times.

  32. milind

    I had abused Naveed on FB..ha ha ha ha..salman fan ka dard uske bhai ko ho gaya..iska gussa hai janaab ko..ab main samjha. :D Bloody Howlarious!!

    Piyush,

    Wont say much but you know you are internally as weak for Salman as Tashan is for akki..just that you make it apparent sometimes but with much better presentation!

  33. aryan29

    Milind, In the years like 2000 and 2001 SRK gave MORE FLOPS than Salman Khan .SRK gave flops like (One 2 Ka 4,Gaja Gamini,Hey Ram,Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani,Asoka) in 2years compare to Salman Khan who had given 2flops in those 2years (Chal mere bhai and Kahin pyar na ho jaye).

    Also in the years like 2005 and 2009 the films which SRK did FLOPPED (Paheli and Billu) while in the SAME years Salman Khan gave SUPERHIT films No Entry and Wanted and even SEMIHIT Mpkk.

    Infact till more than the half decade(6 years) (2000-2005) It was SRK who had given MORE number of FLOP films than Salman Khan. (You should check it before making flase claims about Salman’s decade

    And if you say films like Saawan and Saawariya as Salman Khan films then even films like Bhootnath and Shakti are SRK’s Flops

    Salman Khan had a rough patch of 2-3years Post 2005 and not of a DECADE as you always try to falsely claim.

  34. aryan29

    @Milind Regards,my stars big budgeted films doing lesser..atleast they were not as ingloriously bastard as some MAMK and SKPGY or Marigold that were DOA at BO.SRK films never have faced this thing.Point made.Thanks.

    Like always your claims are FALSE,,Even SRK had films like Dulha Mil Gaya and Yeh lamhe judai ke were BO DISASTERS.

  35. aryan29

    @milind Re-Many of Salman films have done 40% of SRK’s films business in past ten years..

    Same thing applies to SRK.I can name you number of films of SRK like One two ka four or yeh lmahe judai ke which didn’t do even 30% of salman films released at that time.

    Dulha mil gaya did 3CRORES ONLY (40% of MAMK) which did 8 crores and was HIT in dish tv earning 21crores.

    In anyways SRK in his carrer had DISASTERS before also on his carrer like Trimurti or Zamana deewana.

    So your this point that SRK never had disasters doesnt make any sense and basically your all claims are false .

  36. aryan29

    Salman Khan’s Flops between 2000 and 2005

    1.Kahin pyar na ho jaye
    2.Chal mere bhai
    3.yeh hai jalwa
    4.Tum ko na bhool payenge
    5.DNJAK
    6.Kyonki
    7.shadi karke phas gaya yar

    SRK FLOP films between 2000 and 2005
    1.ghaja ghamini
    2.Hey Ram
    3.Phir b dil hai hindustani
    4.Asoka
    5.One two ka four
    6.Yeh lamhe judai ke
    7.Paheli
    8.Swades

    So after 6YEARS of the DECADE it was SRK who had MORE FLOPS than Salman Khan.

    Salman Khan had a rough patch of 2-3years after 2005 and not of a decade.

  37. suprabh

    Shahrukh’s biggest Flop– His Mai khuda hoon chants
    Salman’s biggest Flop– His mother of all Fake Accent
    Aamir’s biggest Flop–Cultivating so called Intellectual and Hatke fans who in reality fight like cats and Dogs

    Akshay’s biggest Flop–Yet to come :D :D

  38. aryan29

    @Milind Abhishek’s Guru released in 2007 had done 43-44crores and was HIT while salman’s PARTNER released in the SAME YEAR had done 61-62crores and was BLOCKBUSTER.

  39. aryan29

    On the topic of this post,I am sure milind will use all false theories and claims to prove that Aamir is mediocre where in reality in the last few years Aamir’s films and acting have been least mediocre among all the stars.

  40. dennycrane1

    SRK is selling for now 20 years dude..and with two recent films with over 200 WW collections,he is still going strong consistently..unlike a certain Salman who has spent half of his career in the darkness of dungeons. lol.

    mere dost if srk has been selling ffor 20 yrs salman has been selling for 23 years starting wid mpk :D

    Again,zenith is a term that has been defined by SRK for over 90% of time in past twenty years..and you say Salman has reached heights!! Yes he has reached heights..Heights of Utter Mediocre attempts”..Should i begin counting…. You might have a severe heaviness of the chest. So I will pardon you here.

    please do begin counting and meanwhile do mention one movie of srk tht has crossed hahk inflation adjusted wise or dabangg and bg present day term wise…

    Many of Salman films have done 40% of SRK’s films business in past ten years..some havnt even crossed the double figure mark.Am i making the chest pain dude!!

    regarding this aryan seems to have answered it already..u already seem to be resorting to cherry picking..chest pain kiska ho raha hai dost :D

    Yes on BO it couldn’t…but as an iconic film it stands miles ahead of any film in the 90?s..and an inch ahead of Satya.It gave a character that became a synonym of romance.It re-kindled romance with a zeal unmatched.HAHK didn’t do even an iota of it.Take that!!

    take what? here u give ur opinion as fact..i could say long before ddlj was born..salman hadd rekindled romance wid mpk in his very first film..remember the friend cap? and regarding iconic hahk changed the booxoffice landscape itself..can u say tht for ddlj apart from ur personal opinion?

    The post will clarify the myth.And an actor who for more than 75% time in his career has been doing mediocre films cannot be some Capra and Rosellini with 2-3 good films.SRK had a KHKN,Darr,Baazigar,DDLJ when Aamir had Dil,Ishq and Tum Mere Ho.Anyways,leave it for the essence of the post I am going to make.

    once again u prove it urself tht the highlight of srk career is ddlj…which gets completely overshadowed by hahk…no matter what srk does he is overshadowed by someone else

    No baby,no..it is a weak product..I have never included it in my list of any order based posts..Paheli can itself dazzle many of Aamir’s films just by its colour display.

    i seriously hope ur above comment is just a joke..or no film lovers will take ur comments seriously

    3I has done mammoth collection.Agreed.It is a quality product.Disagreed.Is it enteratining.Yes it is.

    once again simply ur opinion…collections,trp ratings,trending n even imdb ratings prove its a quality produuct..n its repeat value is much more than any movie of present era

    If a murderer can make a decent comeback after ten years of imprisonment..a lion with consistency unmatched at BO can anyday make your actor piss in his pants.So take it easy dude!!

    first let srk movie cross dabangg or bg…ddlj couldnt beat salman’s hahk,,then we shall talk about bo prowess
    dost is jungle main sher kam aur shiikaari jyaada hain…jyaada dhhadna mat nahin toh srk ki chamdi bhi utar sakti hain :D

    Last ten years of Salman was a nightmare in context of a so called superstar.Yes it was good enough if we consider Salman equal to likes of Suniel Shetty.Do I need to single out comments..all comments are indicating at the same point that your truth was fabricated.Salman is not worthy of being called even a star if we consider last ten years where even Abhishek’s Guru at one point of time was doing much more than many of his films.

    ur above statement proves how insecure u have become regarding salman’s superstardom..what next?comparing srk to rajpal yadav? after all srk of baazigar looks like rajpal yadav :D

    lastly filmy discussions aside, u still remain one of my fav ng members :D
    signing off
    Denny Crane(joey)

  41. milind

    “mere dost if srk has been selling ffor 20 yrs salman has been selling for 23 years starting wid mpk”

    What?? Did i hear it right?Minus those 10 horrible decades from Salman’s career and he remains with years just enough to cover his private parts. :D So now live with that!!

    “please do begin counting and meanwhile do mention one movie of srk tht has crossed hahk inflation adjusted wise or dabangg and bg present day term wise…”

    It is more about consistency..being able to hold audiences attention without fail for a continuous period..guess there is no way you can refute the TEN YEARS THEORY that is the main reason for Salman’s death as a superstar. :D And DDLJ might not have crossed HAHK..But yes der it stripped HAHK of all attributes of a romantic outing with its unorthodox approach at that point of time.HAHK is a semi-forgotten stuff with its name being relegated behind DDLJ that did less than it.Therein lies the shame for a salman fan and he will have to live with it..it is like a cancer killing you all slowly,Bear the pain I give you! And can your so called facts change the “opinions” when opinion is what made cinema and helped it evolve. :D

    “regarding this aryan seems to have answered it already..u already seem to be resorting to cherry picking..chest pain kiska ho raha hai dost”

    Yuvraaj did some 16.5 crores when a RNBDJ did 86.5 crores..woahhhh thats just like 19% of SRK’S Films nett. There are other PROMINENT examples..I will take out your and aryan’s clothes inch by inch..Take a sorbitrate and lessen your chest pain bhai.My condolences. :D :-(

    “ake what? here u give ur opinion as fact..i could say long before ddlj was born..salman hadd rekindled romance wid mpk in his very first film..remember the friend cap? and regarding iconic hahk changed the booxoffice landscape itself..can u say tht for ddlj apart from ur personal opinion?”
    Personal Opinion for DDLJ..come out of your closet and read books on cinema and open your eyes wide. A BO site may be interested in how HAHK changed BO Landscape but a cinema observer and reader knows how many innumerable times has been DDLJ praised and considered a movie that changed the stream of orthodox approach to a love story representing a post-liberisation India.Thesis work has been done on it and I will produce many of the thesis work on DDLJ.Opinion is what makes a Cinema and cumulative opinions for DDLJ can kick any fact about HAHK out the window.Live with that and cry :D

    “once again u prove it urself tht the highlight of srk career is ddlj…which gets completely overshadowed by hahk…no matter what srk does he is overshadowed by someone else”

    No I just said that SRK has had a far more varied and significant start than any other star.Read that.Do not interpret using your dick. ;-)

    “i seriously hope ur above comment is just a joke..or no film lovers will take ur comments seriously”

    This is what.Living in the confines of a room reading a few film sites and a few trade sites makes a man.I will suggest you some good books on cinema..if you need to come out of the cocoon.Get enlightened my friend or please do not cry like a chicken soon to be slaughtered..ala Salman Khan crying!!

    “irst let srk movie cross dabangg or bg…ddlj couldnt beat salman’s hahk,,then we shall talk about bo prowess
    dost is jungle main sher kam aur shiikaari jyaada hain…jyaada dhhadna mat nahin toh srk ki chamdi bhi utar sakti hain”

    First let Salman be as consistent as SRK in success and also compensate for hsi ten years..then I will find him eligible to move beyond Suniel Shetty.Curently he is a Suniel Shetty with some gloss. :D Babu,Is Jungle me ek hi shikari tha jisne tumhare star ka bhurta banaya hua hai.Chamdi to main yahaan tumlogon ki udhed hi raha hun. :D

    Insecure for Salman Khan–a star who was like a beggar for a decade in oblivion when I know he will soon meet the fate again. :D Nahhh!!

    You too are avery dear member and friend beyond this periphery of NG. :D
    Cheers!\

  42. dwnpiyush

    If you had lost respect for me, you shouldn’t have gone gone about calling me bro/bhai etc etc. This is two-facedness not how you define it above. Anyway I am glad that you lost respect for me. Seriously.

    And I said you write well sometimes. Not all the times.

    Like I said we are dramatically different people. Your above retort clearly illustrates it.

  43. milind

    Same with you Mr.Piyush….you also should not have gone around asking if I can post your recap stuff when you had decided to leave NG.Thats true hypocrisy considering you had lost all respect fr me.

    And yes we are diametrically opposite people….I speak things openly..you have d bitterness inside you.Tc.

  44. milind

    The fact is you get rattled by Salmans asskicking and you start losing respect. :D

    And regards my writing..well that’s universally appreciated…i am being a megalomaniac…aint I!! :D I may not write well but I am not a hidden fanatic as you are.Guess Shilac and Raj ji were right about you.

  45. dwnpiyush

    Milind

    For the past 2-3 months since I have started recognizing you as slightly deranged (since I have lost respect that is), I have not interacted with you at all. When I had asked you to post stuff, I had a decent opinion of you- and I had asked only those people with whom I was in touch through Facebook.

    Yes I have commented once or twice on your posts- whenever I feel that I have something to contribute. I do that even on Tashan’s posts. Because when I read a posts, and have a comment- I do comment irrespective of who the author is.

    This time, on this thread I just thought I should make things clear. I didn’t indulge in small talk. You can read the comments above.

    “How are you and where are you now-a-days!”

    Main bhai tujhe jab itna ajeeb lagta hoon, toh kyon yeh sab?

    “Loss of respect is mutual but also higher from my side.”

    This thread only shows your hypocrisy and two-facedness.

    I never said you abuse a lot. Yes, Your language by and large is not very civil when you not writing your reflection posts, but I never said that here. I just said that you abused Danish. But ya, that is none of my business- everyone has his or her own tastes and preferences with words.

    I have always been very clear that Salman Khan is my favorite actor, fav bollywood personality. Only because I write in good English about old movies, I can’t be expected to have views on other things in itself is hypocrisy. On Salman’s birthday I wrote a detailed note on why I love him. Before Ra.one release I wrote a detailed note on why I don’t like SRK and why I didn’t want Ra.one to break Bodyguard’s record. I have always been open, it’s you who has not been able to digest this blatant openness.

    “Guess Shilac and Raj ji were right about you.”

    Guess kyun? They were right indeed. That’s what you have had in mind always, but never expressed. And yet you say that you say everything openly. And it is I who keep bitterness bottled inside???

    Apne aap ko hee contradict karte jaa rahe ho. You have had a lot more than bitterness bottled up inside you for the past 3-4 months- still you pretend to be bhai/bro/friend. I said it openly on this thread- you just retorted and lost your guard.

  46. dwnpiyush

    “The fact is you get rattled by Salmans asskicking and you start losing respect.”

    I don’t understand this sentence at all or its context. And please save the emoticons for someone else.

    “And also when you indirectly started using Danish’s twisted theories to suited your arguments when you had none to offer

    Can you please site one instance? I have had many disagreements with Danish over a lot of things. Very conveniently you choose to ignore that. Even when you have shown that you remember each and every comment made on NG (which is commendable for sure).

    I don’t concur with Danish footfall theory, especially when making comparisons across decades. I agree when he says that Salman is a better actor than SRK and Aamir. That even I believe and endorse- I have always maintained this stance. Check any comment of mine if you please. That’s what I said in the third post on mine on NG.

    But I don’t agree with him when he puts Salman ahead of Amitabh. I find it blasphemous. Especially at this juncture, when all the three Khans are going strong and hopefully have over 15-20 years of careers left.

    This again shows that you indulge in selective reading and forming interpretations.

  47. Prashant

    Abhi yeh haal hai jab post aaegi tb kya hoga

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