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  1. Ihab
    Ihab
    June 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

    Looks like a cr@ppy movie. So what the hell is the movie about? About how they killed the guy, had sex in front of him, then cut him into pieces and burnt the body? Or is it about something I am missing?

  2. aman
    aman
    June 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

    Pathetic promo. Absolute crap! The news reporter sounded more like the PR agent of the movie.

  3. O'Rama
    O'Rama
    June 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

    Poor … if I have to just see a news report, I rather see it on TV than in the cinema.

  4. kushal
    kushal
    June 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM

    The promo just presents the backdrop of the movie. Difficult to say anything about the movie from this promo.

  5. tony montana
    tony montana
    June 30, 2011 at 11:37 PM

    hmm quite innovative without showing the actors, giving away the basic premise of the story through a reporter … liked it…
    @ ihab Or is it about something I am missing? u missed out the basic question .. why? and that forms the story…

  6. Shalu
    Shalu
    July 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM

    Not impressive. The poster was much better.

  7. sputnik
    sputnik
    July 1, 2011 at 2:23 AM

    Looks like Aaj Tak is the channel that is being spoofed here.

    So having sex before the dead body is more wrong than killing the guy, hacking him to pieces and burning the parts?

    I did not get if the channel is being mocked for saying that or if that is being used to sensationalize the promo.

    ———-

    On the real case the verdict is ridiculous.

    “Maria Susairaj has been convicted for destruction of evidence under Indian Penal Code Section 201 in the Grover murder case while Jerome, a former naval officer, has been convicted for culpable homicide not amounting to murder under Section 304 (Part 1). However, the prosecution failed to prove the intent to murder for Jerome.

    Sessions court judge MW Chandwani said that the intention to kill could not be proven in the court.

    Maria might walk free when the sentence in pronounced on Friday as the maximum sentence for destruction of evidence is three years and she has already been in jail for three years. ”

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/maria-jerome-convicted-in-grover-murder-case/163945-3.html

  8. Shalu
    Shalu
    July 1, 2011 at 2:33 AM

    Sputnik, Thanks for sharing the verdict, I knew it was coming out today but forgot to look for it.

    I think the verdict is fair since it was a crime of passion. Maria was a willing victim of casting couch and when her boyfriend found them together he killed Grover in a fit of rage. After that they panicked and tried to cover up the best they could. It is inhuman of course (especially having sex after the murder) but then human nature is difficult to comprehend at times.

  9. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 2:49 AM

    Dear shalu

    They not only had sex after killing him. But they cut his body into 100 pieces. How is it a fair verdict, I don’t know.

    The biggest culprit seems to be ready to walk away. Hopefully the verdict will be overturned by the high court. I wonder about the quality of our judges in the lower courts. It is indeed sad to see such naive and inhuman behavior by people in our legal system

  10. Shalu
    Shalu
    July 1, 2011 at 2:58 AM

    Tanned Sen, I’m saying that the murder itself was not pre-planned and it happened on the spur of the moment when Jerome found Grover naked in Maria’s bedroom. It was not like the Nanavati case which was pre-planned.

    Maria was not involved in the murder but she did get involved in getting rid of the body. Jerome of course will be (and should be) punished for the murder – they are not letting him off. He has been booked for culpable homicide

  11. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 3:05 AM

    Shalu, 3 year punishment for sleeping with a guy, watching your boyfriend kill him, having sex with ur boyfriend with the dead body there, then cutting up a guy into 100 pieces and then covering it up…….I don’t see that as justice….any which way I look at it. Hang the boyfriend but at least ensure that this psychopath stays in jail

  12. Shalu
    Shalu
    July 1, 2011 at 3:10 AM

    Tanned Sen, I agree that it is morally wrong in fact horrible. But justice has to follow its own course. How can the court punish her for-

    sleeping with a guy – her personal choice

    watching your boyfriend kill him – out of her hands

    having sex with your boyfriend with the dead body there – morally wrong but can’t be punished by court

    cutting up a guy into 100 pieces and then covering it up – she did get punished by court for it.

  13. utkal
    utkal
    July 1, 2011 at 3:18 AM

    Good enough promo. Sets up the story. Much more interesting than showing the scenes from the crime.

  14. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 3:25 AM

    Shalu 3 yrs for cutting a person up and hiding it up. I rest my case

  15. Tango
    Tango
    July 1, 2011 at 3:27 AM

    Utkal, interestingly, the court will give decision on the Susairaj case tomorrow.

  16. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 3:52 AM

    In my opinion the offence is murdering the guy…Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.

  17. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 4:05 AM

    Dear superb (my nickname for u henceforth..ha ha)
    I respectfully disagree. The boyfriend should get capital punishment. The girl cannot walk in 3 years. Can you think of this girl free and roaming around just 3 yrs after the crime. Maybe we should extradite her to saudi

  18. rks
    rks
    July 1, 2011 at 4:08 AM

    “Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.”
    It shows that perpetrator has some deeper mental problem.

  19. Tango
    Tango
    July 1, 2011 at 4:24 AM

    Suprabh – “In my opinion the offence is murdering the guy…Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.”

    Bhai sahab aap se dar lagne laga hai. Koi galti hui ho to maaf kar do magar 100 parts mein mat chop karna marne baad :-(

    A person who does such an act deserves to be sent to a gas chamber, as opposed to one who just kills.

  20. Doga
    Doga
    July 1, 2011 at 4:33 AM

    Suprabh, One of Sanjay Dutt’s friend faces 5 years jail time for just throwing his gun in a furnace. The owner of the furnace i guess is facing 3 years.(Both have served 1.5 years approx already).

    And nothing was done with the gun, just that it was un licenced.

    Sanjay Dutt was overseas when he heard of raids happening so he called his friend to do it.

    Ofcourse this is all outside POTA because if they were convicted in pota, there is nothing less than life imprisonment.

    This all amounts to Destruction of Evidence, which is a Major crime in USA especially in Homicide cases.

  21. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 4:46 AM

    @Tango, Tanned and Sen (Riya, Raima, Reema anyone ha ha ) , and others

    I do think Killing someone is very serious crime..and wouldn’t even mind death penalty for that..but the crime part for me ends here..whatever they do with the body..is insignificant–whether they cut it into a 100 pieces or throw in a sea where the sharks eat it or leave it to rot…Doesnt make any difference…

    At the same time I am not defending the girl–She should be charged for destruction of evidence but the point is whether she helped in getting rid of the whole body or a 100 pieces should be viewed as same….

    Its a dead body–the crime is making a living body dead not what you do after it..–IMO.

  22. ranju
    ranju
    July 1, 2011 at 4:48 AM

    Killing a person in rage, not acceptable, but could happen to anyone. There are some difference between ”attempt to murder and accidental murder.
    But cut the dead body by 100 pieces in cold blooded and then dump is inhuman and very punishable act.

    “Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.”

    suprabh you have superb logic( Danish effect i guess). you can’t kill or harm a person ( by intersect in 100 pieces) who already dead. Sorry can’t LOL

  23. RAJ
    RAJ
    July 1, 2011 at 4:52 AM

    “””But cut the dead body by 100 pieces in cold blooded and then dump is inhuman and very punishable act.”””

    I agree…When I read the verdict,I felt weird initially….I am sure,the verdict on Maria would be different in the higher court….

  24. Shalu
    Shalu
    July 1, 2011 at 4:56 AM

    Not defending what they did but how on earth could they get rid of the body except by cutting it into small pieces. Maria lived in a society (flats) and there was no way they could have sneaked out the body of a fully grown man without arousing suspicion. So they cut the body into small pieces and carried them away in plastic bags.

    Again not defending their actions, just explaining the reason behind cutting him up. A murder had been committed (without any planning) and now they were afraid for themselves.

    Of course murder is inexcusable and Jerome needs to be punished for what he did. Maria too but not for murder, she has to be punished for trying to save the murderer and destroying evidence.

  25. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 5:06 AM

    @Ranju

    Its a very subjective thing….You cannot prove what is more wrong than the other. I believe the killing itself is most wrong (whatever way) and its eventually that which is going to impact the person (who was killed)…How does it make any difference whether afterwards they cut it into a 100 pieces..Or stabbed once or twice in his heart..Its not a matter of debate about what logic I have..but whats being said makes sense or not… To me it does..maybe to you it doesnt.

  26. sputnik
    sputnik
    July 1, 2011 at 5:09 AM

    @Tanned Sen,

    “Shalu 3 yrs for cutting a person up and hiding it up. I rest my case”

    Well said.

    @suprabh,

    “In my opinion the offence is murdering the guy…Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.”

    Technically what one does with a dead body does not make any difference.
    But “Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death” – we are talking about a human being – even though a dead one.

    How can someone normal person hack even a dead human into 300 pieces (that’s the actual number)? As rks said “It shows that perpetrator has some deeper mental problem.”

    “Maria, who was in a relationship with Jerome, went to Mumbai to become an actor in Hindi TV serials. She befriended Grover to secure a foothold in the television industry and subsequently started dating him.

    On the evening of May 6, 2008, Grover went to Maria’s new home in Malad to help her unpack. The next morning, on May 7, Jerome went to Maria’s house and was enraged when he saw the two together. He grabbed a kitchen knife and allegedly stabbed Grover, killing him.

    Maria reportedly went to a neighbourhood mall and bought a huge chopping knife and two sports bags. Jerome allegedly chopped Grover’s body into as many as 300 pieces. His remains were stuffed into one of the bags. ”

    So it was 2 bags not many small bags so their cutting him into pieces is not justified either. And as Doga said destroying evidence of unlicensed arms carries more punishment than destroying evidence of murder?

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/how-neeraj-grover-was-brutally-killed/163959-3.html

    Here is a longer version of what happened

    “Matthew called Susayraj on her cell phone and was angry to hear a male voice in the background. Susayraj, who had earlier told Matthew that Grover had a crush on her, but that she didn’t reciprocate his feelings, told him that Grover had come over to help her move into the new house. Matthew told Susayraj not to allow Grover to stay overnight and ended the call. ”

    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_how-was-neeraj-grover-killed_1167161

  27. Doga
    Doga
    July 1, 2011 at 5:12 AM

    Its always interesting to read divergent views on extreme topics.

    Says a lot about how conditioning of mind works in humans.

  28. ranju
    ranju
    July 1, 2011 at 5:13 AM

    @Shalu Ji, Maria is not convicted for murder, she is inside bar cause of destroying murder evidence and accompy and try to save the murderer. All over the world, court verdict goes softer to women, i won’t be wonder if she get less than 5 years jail time.

  29. rks
    rks
    July 1, 2011 at 5:15 AM

    “How does it make any difference whether afterwards they cut it into a 100 pieces”
    There are things which humans do in fit of rage but chopping in 100 pieces take time and I am not sure fit of rage would sustain that long.

    ps – I don’t know about the case and I have just read Suprabh’s and following comments.

  30. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 5:20 AM

    @Sputnik,

    its a world of cruelity, deceit, murders and what not….Humans behave irresponsibly and run over guys while drinking and driving (nanda case)…same humans plant bombs to kill thousands in one instance,, and the same humans rape women, childeren and do what not…With all that on the table…I dont see a 100 piece dead human kabab any differently..

  31. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 5:26 AM

    Suffice to say that if superb and shalu were together, I wouldn’t come in between…ha ha. I prefer to be in one piece ;-)

    (just kidding shalu and suprabh)

  32. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 5:28 AM

    Suprabh, nice point that. If salman khan can run over and kill people and get away scot free..and even worse…be projected as a nice person…anything is possible in India.

  33. Doga
    Doga
    July 1, 2011 at 5:31 AM

    Tanned Sen, Suprabh has a point, but that applies to human race, not just India.

  34. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 5:35 AM

    Dear doga

    I agree that murderers get away everywhere – but only in India do they become or stay heroes even after – salman and sidhu being examples. Unfortunately, value of life in India is negligible

  35. Naveed
    Naveed
    July 1, 2011 at 5:45 AM

    @ Tanned Sen – I have not followed the case but you say people (meaning more than one). From what I know it was one person. Secondly, do you have any substantial evidence.

    Ng is a movie forum so lets not all try to play judge or God. Leave that to the law.

    And yes Salman does many good things but many people (I am not aiming it at you Tanned Sen) overlook that and may I say do so intentionally.

    Read the articles where daily so many people are operated on there eyes due to his being human foundation and etc etc.

  36. Naveed
    Naveed
    July 1, 2011 at 5:47 AM

    In regards to the trailer to this film – looks nothing great but I guess I need more trailers to form a more stronger opinion.

  37. Doga
    Doga
    July 1, 2011 at 5:48 AM

    Tanned Sen, that way lets see,

    China 10,000 students killed in Tainamen Square in 1989, still Deng Xiaoping remained supreme leader of China till 1992.

    Saddam Hussien is famous for killing thousands of his own people and still ruling like anything and there are many others.

    Yes you can say they have more power etc, but they always had support to continue what they were doing.

    And lets not forget, whom atleast half of US and half of world likes and liked even more before and was re-elected, and his war killed atleast a million people, George Bush, :)

    Heck,even Osama has huge following, just few days back my website was hacked and Big Osama Pic and some arabic stuff was put on front page.

    The developing world in Asia,Africa etc has multitudes of stories. India is no different.

  38. sputnik
    sputnik
    July 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM

    @Doga,

    “Saddam Hussien is famous for killing thousands of his own people and still ruling like anything and there are many others.”

    Breaking News – Saddam Hussein was executed a few years back.

  39. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 6:03 AM

    I’ll try to explain something here. I don’t know how much will I be able to convey, but its something that I strongly believe in.

    Human beings have this psychology of favoring whats Pretty and beautiful. Anything that looks pretty is almost halfway successful, and the same thing if doesnt look good..then its a tough road ahead.

    Long time back someone mentioned to me that somewhere ( I guess Japan) people hunt Dolphins and eat their meat. There was a huge hue n cry over this–How Can you kill dolphins. Ther person whom I was discussing this was like–how can one eat a dolphin its such a nice (read pretty) animal. And I was like why not–when you can eat chicken then why not this? Just because it doesnt seem a good enough choice for a food item..

    Same thing happened when I read about Still-born babies being eaten and served in restarants in Thailand–Yes Rich people eat still born babies (dead foetus) in Thailand. Its apparently a delicacy there. All my friends were like–how inhuman is that; how wrong is that– And I did not see anything wrong in it–infact it was much better than eating chicken, beef or pork–at least they weren’t killing anyone.

    I am a strict vegetarian since birth and personally I see everything similarly..

    I apply the same analogy here–If the guy whould have been killed by a gunshot..nobody would even bother discussing it…But now that he was cut into a 100 pieces after getting killed–somehow that makes a lot of difference to people….Just because the whole idea of cutting someone in a 100 pieces aint pretty..so it becomes a bigger crime!!

    To his parents and loved ones the loss is Him dying–whether in one piece or a 100….They’d have still accepted a greatly injured by alive son rather than an unbruised dead one.

  40. Naveed
    Naveed
    July 1, 2011 at 6:14 AM

    @ suprabh – you make a fantastic comment above and I agree once he’s dead it doesn’t really matter. The guy is dead. BUT anyone who does such things to a body afterwards like what has been discussed here then the guy needs a) serious help b) be locked up for a very very long time.

    Unfortunately killings and murders are all around us but chopping the body up or sleeping with the body or anything of such a sort suggests that the perpetrator is seriously messed up.

  41. Doga
    Doga
    July 1, 2011 at 6:15 AM

    @ Sputnik, :)

    Yes, it should be , “Saddam Hussien was famous for killing thousands of his own people and was still ruling like anything and there are many others”

    Lol , what discussion am i getting into, need to go back to Bbuddah and Delhi Belly Boxoffice.

  42. sputnik
    sputnik
    July 1, 2011 at 6:35 AM

    @suprabh,

    “its a world of cruelity, deceit, murders and what not….Humans behave irresponsibly and run over guys while drinking and driving (nanda case)…same humans plant bombs to kill thousands in one instance,, and the same humans rape women, childeren and do what not…With all that on the table…I dont see a 100 piece dead human kabab any differently..”

    Yes its a cruel world out there but what is wrong is wrong. Yes all the things you mention are wrong and a crime too. As rks said they did not cut the body into 300 pieces in a fit of rage nor to fit it into their car. They were taking sadistic pleasure in cutting him into 300 pieces. Now a person will feel guilty or show remorse after killing someone accidentally but here they displayed no such signs. In fact it seems they were kind of celebrating what they did.

    Now using your pretty thing analogy isn’t it ironical that the boyfriend killed the guy who slept with his girlfriend but did no harm to her even though she was sleeping with him behind his back.

    “Long time back someone mentioned to me that somewhere ( I guess Japan) people hunt Dolphins and eat their meat. There was a huge hue n cry over this–How Can you kill dolphins. Ther person whom I was discussing this was like–how can one eat a dolphin its such a nice (read pretty) animal. And I was like why not–when you can eat chicken then why not this? Just because it doesnt seem a good enough choice for a food item..”

    Now people in USA have dogs as pets and they will say the same thing when they hear about people in China eating dogs. Now I don’t find dogs pretty but then some may do. Now I do not think there is anything wrong whether you eat dolphins, dogs, snakes, chicken or lions or elephants or insects.

    “Same thing happened when I read about Still-born babies being eaten and served in restarants in Thailand–Yes Rich people eat still born babies (dead foetus) in Thailand. Its apparently a delicacy there. All my friends were like–how inhuman is that; how wrong is that– And I did not see anything wrong in it–infact it was much better than eating chicken, beef or pork–at least they weren’t killing anyone.”

    Now there is a difference between eating animals and eating human beings dead or alive.

    “I am a strict vegetarian since birth and personally I see everything similarly..”

    But then vegetarians should not eat plants either as they are living things too – how can we say that a plant does not feel bad when you cut or pluck things out of it?

    “I apply the same analogy here–If the guy whould have been killed by a gunshot..nobody would even bother discussing it…But now that he was cut into a 100 pieces after getting killed–somehow that makes a lot of difference to people….Just because the whole idea of cutting someone in a 100 pieces aint pretty..so it becomes a bigger crime!!”

    Killing whether by gunshot or knife or a saw is a crime. Cutting into three hundred pieces just shows how barbaric they were. And they should be locked up so that they do similar stuff to others as it shows they are seriously messed up in the head.

    “To his parents and loved ones the loss is Him dying–whether in one piece or a 100….They’d have still accepted a greatly injured by alive son rather than an unbruised dead one.”

    Yes sure but they would have preferred the one piece dead body of their son rather than 300 pieces of their dead son.

    And anyways why bother with punishing them – the dead person is not going to come back anyways – so let them out after all there is so much cruelty in the world so many people getting away with crimes – hey shit happens.

  43. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 6:44 AM

    “And anyways why bother with punishing them – the dead person is not going to come back anyways – so let them out after all there is so much cruelty in the world so many people getting away with crimes – hey shit happens.”

    No Sputnik, you are reading more out of my lines..Sure the dead person is not going to come back but you can prevent the killer from killing more of them by giving him a death penalty

    My giving examples of those Drinking driving-and bomb blasts..were not to show that shit happens..Rather it was to show that this is no different shit…A similar punsihment should be for everyone–rather than looking at it as something grossly different and hence a harsher perspective.

    “Yes sure but they would have preferred the one piece dead body of their son rather than 300 pieces of their dead son.”

    So should we punish him for not being able to provide the parents with a wholesome body after he KILLED their child?

    “But then vegetarians should not eat plants either as they are living things too – how can we say that a plant does not feel bad when you cut or pluck things out of it?”

    Sputnik, I could have given you some useless points to argue over this, but to be honest I am a hypocrite and there’s a line I draw beyond which i can easily fail in my own theories. All I do is try to push that Line as far as I can.

  44. sputnik
    sputnik
    July 1, 2011 at 8:31 AM

    @suprabh,

    “Sure the dead person is not going to come back but you can prevent the killer from killing more of them by giving him a death penalty”

    And that’s precisely my point – by giving them a death penalty or putting them behind bars for life you will be stopping them from committing something similar. And what they did to the dead body shows they are messed up in the head – they need serious help or be locked up as Naveed said.

    “So should we punish him for not being able to provide the parents with a wholesome body after he KILLED their child?”

    You brought the point that “To his parents and loved ones the loss is Him dying–whether in one piece or a 100….They’d have still accepted a greatly injured by alive son rather than an unbruised dead one.” and I replied that they would have preferred him dead one piece rather than 100 pieces.

    Since we are talking of parents do you think they will say “My son is dead anyways. So what if his body was cut into 100 pieces?” or will they be more angry that something like that happened?

    Punishment is a deterrent but is also a closure for the victims when they feel justice has been rendered.

    “Sputnik, I could have given you some useless points to argue over this, but to be honest I am a hypocrite and there’s a line I draw beyond which i can easily fail in my own theories. All I do is try to push that Line as far as I can.”

    There is no hypocrisy. Ghoda ghaas se dosti karega to khayega kya? Eating animals or plants is different than killing human beings.

  45. suprabh
    suprabh
    July 1, 2011 at 9:11 AM

    @sputnik

    “And what they did to the dead body shows they are messed up in the head – they need serious help or be locked up as Naveed said.”

    I have never said anything about them not needing help…My argument is from the point of law and crime..that they shouldn’t be punished Extra for the way of killing..A murder is a murder for me.

    “Since we are talking of parents do you think they will say “My son is dead anyways. So what if his body was cut into 100 pieces?” or will they be more angry that something like that happened?”

    No because they are the parents of the victim. they won’t stand anything– Anything. Unfortunately they aren’t the law.

    “There is no hypocrisy. Ghoda ghaas se dosti karega to khayega kya? Eating animals or plants is different than killing human beings.”

    It is for me in my head. You are not the first person I have discussed this with. I do call it hypocrisy on my part since I believe in non-killing of animals/humans/any living being…And every time the only answer I could come up with that gave some peace to me is that I am a hypocrite who can’t do anything but be a member of the food chain. I used to be that guy who would preach everyone else about vegetarianism–since the day I came up with that answer–I don’t anymore.

  46. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Dear Naveed

    Here is a point by point rebuttal – not that your comments deserved any

    @ Tanned Sen – I have not followed the case but you say people (meaning more than one). From what I know it was one person. Secondly, do you have any substantial evidence.

    So killing one person is ok in your books. my my

    ‘Ng is a movie forum so lets not all try to play judge or God. Leave that to the law. ‘

    Huh! Dear Sir – please look at the discussions on this post – we are not discussing movies in this thread – though it is about one. So please keep your advise contextual and relevant

    ‘And yes Salman does many good things but many people (I am not aiming it at you Tanned Sen) overlook that and may I say do so intentionally. ‘

    Isnt this more about you and your blind worship of Salman – my friend? Are you so paranoid to think that some of us are here to deliberately pull down Salman? That is indeed very sad if you assume that. Calling a spade a spade is what people should do. Based on your logic – a murderer – if he goes and contributes money to charities becomes a good person and should be forgiven. That’s really poor and unfortunate thinking. I mentioned examples like Sidhu and Salman – as I cant recollect any other public personality in India getting away with murder and enjoying public adulation. If Salman was as stand up a person as you indicate – he would have voluntarily served time for his ‘accident’. I know as much of Salman as probably you do – unless you are his personal friend or family. So its not for me to say whether he donates to charities because of his goodness of heart or because he wants to project himself favorably or just for tax saving purposes. One should have the integrity to praise someone for the good they do and criticize them for the bad they do. Else we would all just be blind fans.

  47. Tanned Sen
    Tanned Sen
    July 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM

    Doga – your examples are fair. Only thing I would like to say is that my comparisons were with civil society and not with the political class. That becomes a very different ball game altogether.

    And when I said India – i guess i was comparing it only other developed democracies. The example I would like to give is OJ Simpson – he got away with murder was never adulated like Salman and Sidhu are.

    To be fair to your point though – the US has many examples of disgraced sportsmen getting forgiven for their sins. But I like to believe they draw a line somewhere and that is when it comes to taking another life – I hope we in India can also do that

  48. Naveed
    Naveed
    July 1, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    @ Tanned sen – no sane person can ever condone a murder so you saying.

    ‘So killing one person is ok in your books. my my’ is WAY OFF THE MARK.

    Anyway I will stick to what I believe and you stick to what you believe. I also need to get back to the DB BHTB threads :)

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