PROMO : RGV’s Not A Love Story

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@Tanned Sen,

“Shalu 3 yrs for cutting a person up and hiding it up. I rest my case”

Well said.

@suprabh,

“In my opinion the offence is murdering the guy…Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death or not doing anything–doesnt make any difference.”

Technically what one does with a dead body does not make any difference.
But “Cuting it into a 100 pieces after death” – we are talking about a human being – even though a dead one.

How can someone normal person hack even a dead human into 300 pieces (that’s the actual number)? As rks said “It shows that perpetrator has some deeper mental problem.”

“Maria, who was in a relationship with Jerome, went to Mumbai to become an actor in Hindi TV serials. She befriended Grover to secure a foothold in the television industry and subsequently started dating him.

On the evening of May 6, 2008, Grover went to Maria’s new home in Malad to help her unpack. The next morning, on May 7, Jerome went to Maria’s house and was enraged when he saw the two together. He grabbed a kitchen knife and allegedly stabbed Grover, killing him.

Maria reportedly went to a neighbourhood mall and bought a huge chopping knife and two sports bags. Jerome allegedly chopped Grover’s body into as many as 300 pieces. His remains were stuffed into one of the bags. ”

So it was 2 bags not many small bags so their cutting him into pieces is not justified either. And as Doga said destroying evidence of unlicensed arms carries more punishment than destroying evidence of murder?

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/how-neeraj-grover-was-brutally-killed/163959-3.html

Here is a longer version of what happened

“Matthew called Susayraj on her cell phone and was angry to hear a male voice in the background. Susayraj, who had earlier told Matthew that Grover had a crush on her, but that she didn’t reciprocate his feelings, told him that Grover had come over to help her move into the new house. Matthew told Susayraj not to allow Grover to stay overnight and ended the call. ”

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai.....ed_1167161

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@Doga,

“Saddam Hussien is famous for killing thousands of his own people and still ruling like anything and there are many others.”

Breaking News – Saddam Hussein was executed a few years back.

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@suprabh,

“its a world of cruelity, deceit, murders and what not….Humans behave irresponsibly and run over guys while drinking and driving (nanda case)…same humans plant bombs to kill thousands in one instance,, and the same humans rape women, childeren and do what not…With all that on the table…I dont see a 100 piece dead human kabab any differently..”

Yes its a cruel world out there but what is wrong is wrong. Yes all the things you mention are wrong and a crime too. As rks said they did not cut the body into 300 pieces in a fit of rage nor to fit it into their car. They were taking sadistic pleasure in cutting him into 300 pieces. Now a person will feel guilty or show remorse after killing someone accidentally but here they displayed no such signs. In fact it seems they were kind of celebrating what they did.

Now using your pretty thing analogy isn’t it ironical that the boyfriend killed the guy who slept with his girlfriend but did no harm to her even though she was sleeping with him behind his back.

“Long time back someone mentioned to me that somewhere ( I guess Japan) people hunt Dolphins and eat their meat. There was a huge hue n cry over this–How Can you kill dolphins. Ther person whom I was discussing this was like–how can one eat a dolphin its such a nice (read pretty) animal. And I was like why not–when you can eat chicken then why not this? Just because it doesnt seem a good enough choice for a food item..”

Now people in USA have dogs as pets and they will say the same thing when they hear about people in China eating dogs. Now I don’t find dogs pretty but then some may do. Now I do not think there is anything wrong whether you eat dolphins, dogs, snakes, chicken or lions or elephants or insects.

“Same thing happened when I read about Still-born babies being eaten and served in restarants in Thailand–Yes Rich people eat still born babies (dead foetus) in Thailand. Its apparently a delicacy there. All my friends were like–how inhuman is that; how wrong is that– And I did not see anything wrong in it–infact it was much better than eating chicken, beef or pork–at least they weren’t killing anyone.”

Now there is a difference between eating animals and eating human beings dead or alive.

“I am a strict vegetarian since birth and personally I see everything similarly..”

But then vegetarians should not eat plants either as they are living things too – how can we say that a plant does not feel bad when you cut or pluck things out of it?

“I apply the same analogy here–If the guy whould have been killed by a gunshot..nobody would even bother discussing it…But now that he was cut into a 100 pieces after getting killed–somehow that makes a lot of difference to people….Just because the whole idea of cutting someone in a 100 pieces aint pretty..so it becomes a bigger crime!!”

Killing whether by gunshot or knife or a saw is a crime. Cutting into three hundred pieces just shows how barbaric they were. And they should be locked up so that they do similar stuff to others as it shows they are seriously messed up in the head.

“To his parents and loved ones the loss is Him dying–whether in one piece or a 100….They’d have still accepted a greatly injured by alive son rather than an unbruised dead one.”

Yes sure but they would have preferred the one piece dead body of their son rather than 300 pieces of their dead son.

And anyways why bother with punishing them – the dead person is not going to come back anyways – so let them out after all there is so much cruelty in the world so many people getting away with crimes – hey shit happens.

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@suprabh,

“Sure the dead person is not going to come back but you can prevent the killer from killing more of them by giving him a death penalty”

And that’s precisely my point – by giving them a death penalty or putting them behind bars for life you will be stopping them from committing something similar. And what they did to the dead body shows they are messed up in the head – they need serious help or be locked up as Naveed said.

“So should we punish him for not being able to provide the parents with a wholesome body after he KILLED their child?”

You brought the point that “To his parents and loved ones the loss is Him dying–whether in one piece or a 100….They’d have still accepted a greatly injured by alive son rather than an unbruised dead one.” and I replied that they would have preferred him dead one piece rather than 100 pieces.

Since we are talking of parents do you think they will say “My son is dead anyways. So what if his body was cut into 100 pieces?” or will they be more angry that something like that happened?

Punishment is a deterrent but is also a closure for the victims when they feel justice has been rendered.

“Sputnik, I could have given you some useless points to argue over this, but to be honest I am a hypocrite and there’s a line I draw beyond which i can easily fail in my own theories. All I do is try to push that Line as far as I can.”

There is no hypocrisy. Ghoda ghaas se dosti karega to khayega kya? Eating animals or plants is different than killing human beings.