1. Sandyman
    April 19, 2011 at 12:47 AM

    Hrithik’s Agneepath is a hot property in the trade.As are Singham and Bodyguard………..

  2. Akb
    April 19, 2011 at 2:26 AM

    looking forward for salman,srk,hrithik and amir film.

  3. come_fall_in_chat
    April 19, 2011 at 3:30 AM

    Be aware of akki specially next year is for akki.

  4. Samwal
    April 19, 2011 at 4:54 AM

    @ Gorilla,

    Are the various rights like satellite,music,DVD and overseas with Producers or with Distribitors ?
    Which rights are with producers and which are with the distributors ?

  5. come_fall_in_chat
    April 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

    All rights is with producer distrubutors have only theatrical rights in most cases.

  6. Naveed
    April 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM

    Ok I’ll be the first to admit that I did not expect this film to hold up as well as it has (after I watched the film last Fri).

    However, I stick by my views that 42 is what it will achieve but seeing how its faring 45 is definitely on the cards.

  7. sandy
    April 19, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    Maine toh bola tha ke film theek-thak hai :-)

  8. Shalu
    April 19, 2011 at 6:27 PM

    Naveed, I too thought it was a goner. And the fact that it is doing well even after a not-so-good opening should be acknowledged. If producers lose money on it, it will be because of the bad opening, not because of the movie itself. And that is why giving weightage to trending is so important.

  9. Manish
    April 19, 2011 at 7:10 PM

    Delhi/Up , Mumbai and overseas are with UTV only …For other territories rights have been sold to sub distributors

  10. Manish
    April 19, 2011 at 7:12 PM

    rest of the territories have been sold at 15 crore to sub distributors . had UTV kept even other territories with it , the chances of success would have been better just like TMK which fell badly but still was profitable to them

  11. suprabh
    April 19, 2011 at 11:06 PM

    aren’t you all happy ? :P

  12. RAJ
    April 20, 2011 at 1:50 AM

    “And that is why giving weightage to trending is so important.”

    The irony is even if the producres give weitage to trending,it aint going to benefit their balance sheet …Hence my point stands…A movie has to justify its budget in the first 10 days…Else,it can never earn profit…

    The bigger the budget,the bigger the numbers it has to put up within first 10 days….

  13. Shalu
    April 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM

    Raj, A movie is not a success because the producer/distributors made money on it – it is only commercially profitable. For eg. TMK, FALTU – both flops for the audience but made money.

    A successful film is one which is liked by the audience. And when a movie is liked by the audience it trends well – not only for the first 10 days but for many weeks.

    And I disagree that a movie has to ‘justify its budget’. A movie is a standalone entity. It is the producer and lead actors who have to justify the budget of a movie by ensuring a big opening. I repeat – TY’s commercial failure is due to the bad opening, not due to the movie itself. Those who enjoyed the movie will remember it as a hit. And everybody is going to remember TMK as a flop even though it benefited the producer’s balance sheets.

  14. Samwal
    April 21, 2011 at 1:29 AM


    I think u didn’t read my reply to u in Thread – ” Thank You 30.50 ” by Tango .I ve spoted some light on the facts so that u can know that

    1. 1st 10 day formula is not fine

    2. Giving 100 % value to trending is wrong & illogical , but Shalu has different point of view for judging,acc to his/her view he/she is right …. but generaly there is no chance to consider trending 100 % fr the verdict .

    3. Ur view of ignoring the Trending line wholy is also incorrect.Bcoz trending line need to be considered to the extent of 15-20% while setting a verdict, rest 80% for D.ROI & Collections per print .

    Plz read that thread by Tango by clicking ” Older Posts “

  15. Shalu
    April 21, 2011 at 1:39 AM

    Samwal, I agree with what you say. Your logic makes complete sense when looked at from a trade analyst’s point of view.

    But I’m not a trade analyst and my theory is on the lines that a movie should be called what it deserves to be called. My logic is not that of a trade analyst but that of a common man. I value a movie on how much it has been liked, not how much it earned.

  16. Naveed
    April 21, 2011 at 3:50 AM

    @ shalu – again very sensible and fair points from you. However let’s see how much TY makes in it’s 4th and 5th week.

    Many are quick to jump at how DABBANG managed a meager (lol) 144 crore after a massive opening but according to BOI DABANGG had the highest 6th week collections. That says a lot about how much it was liked. :)

  17. suprabh
    April 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM


    Kya fark padta hai yaar,,,,,kisne kitne banaye..kisi se zyada ya kam…movie dekho..achhi lage toh tareef karo nahi toh criticise karo…paise bane ya naa bane..hame kya ?

  18. Naveed
    April 21, 2011 at 10:20 AM

    LOL Suprabh – Ok I will try to act upon what you said.

  19. Naveed
    April 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM


    Okay, so what’s the status on THANK YOU? The PR machinery would like us to believe that the film will recover costs, but the truth is THANK YOU is a losing proposition. Ask the distributors who have acquired the film and you will get the correct picture. The business is definitely better than Akshay’s PATIALA HOUSE, but that’s no compliment.

    Also, the figures pertaining to the Satellite Rights and Music Rights, reported in a section of the media, are way off the mark. Oh yes, the figures are inflated; just to prove that the film will have a smooth sailing, as far as the economics are concerned. Nope, it won’t!

    Taran Adarsh – BH

  20. Naveed
    April 21, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    @ suprabh – Yes I am aware of TY collections and I have discussed this with Shalu but what I have posted above from BH is pretty interesting and tells a rather more clear picture.

  21. Shalu
    April 21, 2011 at 5:26 PM

    Naveed, I guess everybody has accepted that TY is going to lose money inspite of being liked – all because of the bad opening. BOI is also saying the same thing as TA but in a less harsher way.

  22. Samwal
    April 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM

    Suprabh, appreciate ur thinking

    Naveed,Shalu …. Yes I think it is clear that disributors of THANK YOU will lose some money, but actualy there r many movies in bollywood where dist. lose money like Mnik(domestic), KI, Veer, Khuda Gawah(1992),Andaz Apna Apna etc but cannot be tagged as flop. WHY ????

    Bcoz other than D.ROI, there are some another components of Verdict, these are Net Business per print, Trending Line & Producers ROI ( how much did producers earned. And these 3 points are quite favourable for these movies like I listed above.

    So, These movies r AVERAGE. And THANK YOU will be AVERAGE at BO.

    Conclusion – Producers should think about distributors while earning huge amt. The should sold movie at lesser price and must ve a policy of 20 % of share in profits if movie reached at 100 cr. So, that no party lose the money inspite of decent performance of movie.

  23. Naveed
    April 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM

    @ samwal – dude I don’t quite see why your bringing in all those other films. The film in question is TY. At this moment distributors will lose money therefore this film most probably will be a flop (others with more knowledge can clarify).

    Plus it’s all hypothetically speaking naa that the producers should think about distributors. Infact I LOL coz it’s a dog eat dog world dude. In business (and that’s what it is) no 1 cares for any1 really.

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