1. Doga
    April 8, 2010 at 9:39 PM

    Kites looks to be going the right direction. Huge Opening in store here.

  2. Doga
    April 8, 2010 at 10:33 PM

    Anyone has info about the international distributors of Kites, we are frighteningly close to the release of the movie(per International standards) and still no press promotion etc?

    I mean its supposed to release in 60 countries simultaneously when i last heard about it.

  3. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 2:05 AM

    Great picturisation and very much in sync with the mood of the song.


    last we heard was that the producers will give the film on a commission basis to international distributors

  4. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 2:15 AM

    Hrithik- Barbara chemistry continues to impress here as well apart from the great visuals.

  5. Yakuza
    April 9, 2010 at 2:17 AM

    Ahh, This is great indeed. Despite some good promos, don’t know why movie failed to create curiosity inside me. I always felt something missing about kites (or you can say something not so exciting). I hope so that after release my myth will turn out to be false. I want it huge at box-office.

  6. Achilles
    April 9, 2010 at 6:12 AM

    Maybe it takes a total cheesy promo to get some excited … Roshans plan to go hollywood with such a cheesefest? LMAO

  7. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM

    An expected nauseating comment…..Some FREAKS vomit desultorily and then swallow it back when they have an egg on their faces!The word “cheesy” is being used just about anywhere by such freaks that the word has eventually lost all of its solmenity!The only thing “cheesy” are such comments :P

  8. Achilles
    April 9, 2010 at 10:14 AM

    Lets hope the fans with their personal attacks sticks around here when the english version of Roshan’s cheesiness is released for the western audience.

    Or say when its shown to the western critics as ‘the bollywood cross-over’ film.

    Till then.

  9. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM


    Dont worry about us.We are not freaks and we dont like licking our spit :P

  10. S T R E E T
    S T R E E T
    April 9, 2010 at 10:52 AM

    I actually think the movie released its first trailor too early…. and there’s this feeling of staleness already about this film. If they has just released few song promos here and there… and one action-dialogue drama just a week prior to release would have been way better. They happened to the exact opposite. The Chopras are usually very godo at that type of stuff. Fanaa, RNBDJ, Dhoom2 all had similar strategy as far as putting out trailors are concerned. First there’d be a teasor just introducing the stars.. as well as the melodious “tune” of their main songs . Then they’ll introduce the songs, one by one (so they could sell CD’s) and then as the release date comes closer they’d show us the a full 2-3 min trailor carving out the main plot, lots of dialogue and action (if there be any) .. all while playing the tunes of the most “popular” songs on an orchestra in the background.

    If your very first trailors reveal everything about the movie… and then you release the movie 3 months later.. the curiousity and excitement factor is obviously all gone.

    … unless you have something really novel to offer and is not leaked out to the public.

  11. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:07 AM


    Your reasoning is flawed big time.Big movies ,on the contrary,must release their promos early enough because more than fans,haters/freaks eagerly anticipate the trailer to lambast it at once and spread negativity(for whatever sadistic pleasure!).Releasing it early has the advantage that the dust of negativity settles down and the actual merit of the promo begins to show.This is exactly what happened with Kites.Same goes for 3I.People hated the first promo of both but both made impact in their later promos.

    YRF are the biggest laggards in publicising a movie.Just look how CDI and Rocket Singh were promoted.D2 was equally bad in its promotion startegy.The reason it got such an opening is the hype associated because of the Dhoom series ,the stellar star-cast.(This might sound exagerated but)Even if no promos were released,the opening would ,virtually, have been the same!

  12. S T R E E T
    S T R E E T
    April 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    “…because more than fans,haters/freaks eagerly anticipate the trailer to lambast it at once …”

    Hahaha… the average cinegoer doesn’t discuss a film with “fans” and “haters” before deciding whether to watch it or not.

    Secondly.. when you have stars like SrK, Hrithik, Aamir.. audience is already interested in watching the film. All you gotta do is make sure you dont fuk up.. dont do something to push the audience away… “staleness” does just dat.

    And dunno bout Rocket Singh coz I havent seen dat movie. But CDI’s opening had everything to do wit the genre and subject of the film than the promotion strategy.

    And you really think D2’s promotioon strategy was bad? Last I checked it had a record breaking opening.. and perhaps better than anything until Ghajini, which also had the exact sequence of trailors as I mentioned earlier. First there was just a teasor show Aamir and his body. Then came teh song trailors one by one.. and a couple weeks prior to release there was this long trailor with dialogues and action.

    Ofcoure I am just talking of the sequence of trailors. A promotion campaign of a film constitues a lot more than just that.

  13. Raju Guide
    Raju Guide
    April 9, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    Loved it! Kites is looking good!

  14. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM


    Among all the cinegoers,there will be aleast one SRK/Aamir/HR or even Akshay/salman admirer/hater per 5 persons(going by their huge following) whose likes/dislikes/opinions has a bearing on the someone’s mind.Its a fact(whether you agree or not) which cannot be ruled out.

  15. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:38 AM


    Our very own Raju guide is a prime example of my point in the earlier comment! :D

  16. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM

    “And you really think D2’s promotioon strategy was bad? ”

    Dont need to even ask me ,ask people around you.

  17. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    “But CDI’s opening had everything to do wit the genre and subject of the film than the promotion strategy. ”

    How come CDI opened to 55-60% then and MNIK(Even worse genre and subject) had such good opening?KJO(though not the best of film-makers) is not a laggard like YRF.

  18. S T R E E T
    S T R E E T
    April 9, 2010 at 11:49 AM

    So.. u still think D2’s opening was bad. Why? what should D2’s opening week total have been then?

    Wait a sec.. Isn’t that the best opening a Hrithik Roshan film had?

    And isnt it the best opening a YRF film had (alongwith VZ)?

  19. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:50 AM


    ” u still think D2’s opening was bad”

    Goodness me!!! When did I say this!
    I have already mentioned the reasons why D2 got such an opening….

  20. S T R E E T
    S T R E E T
    April 9, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    Also,, while u’re at it.. where would D2 stand, if you had to make the list of the best openers in the last decade?

  21. S T R E E T
    S T R E E T
    April 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM

    First of all, MNIK was way way bigger a movie than CDI was.. and it had other things going for it. There’s the SrK-Kajol jodi. The songs were superhit. First SrK movie in over 2 years.. I mean it wasn’t a k3G deal.. but definitely had a lot more pull factors than CDI, which basically started with Srk and and ended with him… not to mention .. him in one of his most unconventional roles.

  22. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    “MNIK was way way bigger a movie than CDI was”

    Do all big movies get big openings?Answer it to yourself….

  23. Raju Guide
    Raju Guide
    April 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Idiot’s revised prediction for Kites (Revision 1.0)

    Opening week: 48 Cr
    Total Run: 75 Cr.

    Stay tuned! This is a stable release, minor patches will be uploaded next month just before 19th May. But dont expect major version upgrade. ;)

  24. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    LOL Raju Guide!

    P.S. : I am off to sleep now….baaki badh-badh kal karte hain :P

  25. Raju Guide
    Raju Guide
    April 9, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    Good night dude..and dont worry about Kites. It will work. I was just pulling your leg.. ;)

  26. Achilles
    April 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

    Street – i think u are right in your point of Roshans fucking up the promotions of Kites … once the footage from Cannes got leaked one year back, the main action scenes and some romantic scenes were out … the recent trailers are repackaging of those same secenes and they look very stale … even for those to whom the leaked promo did not reach, all these recent 4-5 teasers are like repetition as they show the same scenes over and over again with a different song in the background. Not to mention those who have seen MNIK in theaters have already seen these scenes with the theatrical trailer.

    Roshans have gone for an overkill with these few scenes in a very short time – there is already a seen-that-before feel with the movie – which is not good.

    Anyways, Reliance seems to be just desperate to grab eyeballs for a mammoth opening for fast recovery (which is natural considering the kinda money involved).

    But what i feel is the main problem with this movie is – the teasers reveal a kinda cheesiness of bollywood elements all over the place – something that will never cross-over to western sensibilities … the movie is already billed as a crossover material – the chances are really slim … more the cheesiness (read singing in a car, all the constant cheesy smiling and laughing, dancing in the rain, making buns dance, overacting while hugging etc etc) … these elements shud work with the indian audience, but cross over? they have spent a lot on making it visually rich, only if the emoting was more of a ‘global’ kind rather than bollywood cheese.

    This movie shud work to some level in India, might even become the 3rd movie to cross 100 cr – but not sure if that can justify its price (MNIK kind of scnario is likely) … dont see this be the next 3I in indian BO, but going by the poor BO show of bollywood for sometime now, Kites may stand tall amidst ruins in the eyes of hrithik fans.

  27. Achilles
    April 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

    Manoj – if you really like this promo, then me saying its cheesy shudnt have freaked you out like this … this thread will remain in NG as a proof to that.

  28. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM


    @ 1st comment:
    The same “cheesy” promos appealed to you weeks back:


    All of a sudden you find them “cheesy” now which rightly qualifies you as a freak.

    @ 2nd comment:

    “Maybe it takes a total cheesy promo to get some excited ”

    How do you expect us to react when you make such a non-sensical comment?

  29. Achilles
    April 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM

    Manoj – the first TV teaser was low in cheese content … rest everything is cheesefest … this promo is the cheesiest (watch the retarded bun dancing scene again), if you have problem in me saying that or yourself accepting it … then u need a check up … stop freaking out n say what u want to on the promo.

  30. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:13 PM


    Check your comments.You seemed to like both the theatrical and TV trailer.You loved picturisation of dil kyun ye mera.
    Now you find everything cheesy!

    The sole problem is inconsistency!No personal grudges

  31. Doga
    April 9, 2010 at 7:24 PM


    Wait for other promo’s.

  32. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM


    Correction: wait for other ( cheesy ) promos! :P

  33. NyKavi
    April 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM

    Kyoon dono HR fans aapus mein lad rahe ho bhai? Manoj, let me vouch that before I ever saw u on NG, Ach has been the defacto HR rep on this site. He is a real well-wisher of HR, and I can feel his frustration at seeing Kites unfold.

    But let me tell you, India mein yeh film zaroor chalegi. Ab 100cr kare ya 200cr, woh to naseeb janta hai. Lekin desi audiences ke liye itna sab thik hai, after all, Bwood ke Shehzaade do saal ke baad tashreef le aa rahe hain.

    But I agree with Ach, the more I watch these promos, the littler I feel are the chances to click with the gora audiences. The latest romances are either the Twilight types, or the mature ‘The Proposal’ types. The last time I saw any Mexican heroine steal the show was with Salma Hayek in Desparado, back in 1995! Uske baad, kuch bhi nahi hua. Barbara doesnt have the sex appeal of Salma Hayek for sure. But again, if the movie does even $10M in the US, it wudve recovered all its costs and probably will become a hit. So the bar is pretty low. Even Desperado had done quite a bit back then. This may yet work with Mexican audiences, if it is dubbed in Spanish! Unki-hamari sensibilities ek jaise hi hain. I already showed the trailers and made a song CD for my mexican landscappers. They thoroughly enjoyed it, and did recognize Mori! But, I dont think they are the types to go spend 10 bucks on a movie. So, lets see, kya hota hai.

  34. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM


    ” the littler I feel are the chances to click with the gora audiences”

    Why the hell we need to think about them?We are not Reliance!
    To dislike it just because it might not appeal to Gora ppl is ridiculous!Its enough if you liked it nykavi.

  35. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:47 PM

    “He is a real well-wisher of HR:

    Wah Wah! kya well-wisher hai….the next on the list is probably SS gang :P

  36. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:49 PM

    “I can feel his frustration at seeing Kites unfold.”

    What is this frustration about?that kites might not appeal to international audiences!Who cares?

    Ironically,but for him,everyone here is liking the promos.

  37. NyKavi
    April 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM

    Totally agree. Ab hum sub goron ki taste ki kyoon chinta karein.
    Ach is just coming from the ROI angle yaar. The Roshans have tried to do something very ambitious, and I do wish them the best.

    But again, as I said earlier, the bar is pretty low. Cheesefests (here I refer to hwood sensibilities) can easily make $10M in the US, if they find the right audience. They just need to promote it to those intended audiences, hopefully, Ratner will help them in that angle.

  38. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 7:52 PM

    “Ach is just coming from the ROI angle yaar”

    As I see it,he always comes from the ROI angle :D

  39. NyKavi
    April 9, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Yaar, chodo yeh sab tonk-jhonk. Lets all wait for the movie and comment once it releases.
    Enjoy your weekend bros..

  40. NyKavi
    April 9, 2010 at 8:05 PM

    Gorilla bhai, KFC mein kaunsa burger khaoge. Wahaan to sirf murgi ka utpaadan hota hai na?

  41. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 8:06 PM

    Haan… chalo apna apna kaam karte hain …..21st ko to qayamat aani hi hai :P

  42. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 8:09 PM

    Anyway I will be quite busy from mid april to end of the month….have some serious study work

    Plz dont miss me then :P

  43. NyKavi
    April 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM

    Best of Luck in your studies bro!
    Im just a bit impatient waiting for good bwood entertainers. They need more SRK/Aamir/HR level heroes, at least one good big-budget release a month is necessary. All these other chutku-mutku films don’t really satiate the bollywood thirst.

  44. manoj16_391
    April 9, 2010 at 8:27 PM

    Thanks a lot Nykavi :)

  45. Rocky
    April 10, 2010 at 10:10 AM

    Finally heard the songs of Kites, Maza aa gaya. Hritik’ s sing is good too.

  46. My Name is Ali
    My Name is Ali
    April 10, 2010 at 10:40 AM

    Manoj Dear, Good luck for ur studies.
    P.S : Rocky Bhai, Kites Songs r Melodius.
    Sun Kar Mood Fresh ho raha hai.

  47. Achilles
    April 10, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    NyKavi – still expecting 10M from the english version? I wud say both the versions together may notch up 10M in US at max … but even for that they need to excite the hispanic audience enuf.

    the hindi version shud do 3-4 M itself … another 5 M from the english version will hardly be global crossover – much like MNIK … KJO is simply foolish to think his movie has crossed over because it did additional 1M in Indonesia or Bahrain … such petty business hardly justifies the ‘global’ ambitions … and these ambitions get unfold in places like Cannes … and such global movies getting sold at exorbitant prices is another irony.

  48. Achilles
    April 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

    Monoj – good luck with ur exams … will miss your personal defense on everything abt kites and ur research on my comment history … and also ur amusing personal attacks.

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