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  1. rockstar
    rockstar
    December 18, 2009 at 8:24 AM

    thanks for the article rocky

    good to see you q after a long time hows you

    first thing first on khuda kay liye it may be good on some scale on a pakstani set up but the mindstep and general politics was visible to hilt

    when u see a pakistani says we( with special emphashis ) built the taj mahal and sing rag kamud and describe it as pakistani classical its hillarious to hilt ( a song in braj which describes the flirtious nature of krishna)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ChmgW7DqE&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..eature=fvw

    ( from past even in bollywood).. similarly as q said many better movies have been presented

    when you don’t count ur comind history and manipulates it … similarly this describes the general intolerance of others faith nothing more

    on certain section it scores but it was no way a benchmark

    who are we if you don’t beleive in any of combined history and neglects the major part of it

    on this current scale of 9/11 discrimination and so on its just the bollywood attempt go global and milk some money from untapped market but unfortunately its way over the top and from the look of thing my name is khan looks no different

  2. NyKavi
    NyKavi
    December 18, 2009 at 8:28 AM

    Rockstar, agreed on your viewpoints. On Nir Bharan Ke, a nostalgic song from childhood, another link when it was presented in bwood:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-WrzeYA3s&feature=fvw

    Rockstar, notice also, that when bwood presented this song in the movie on Krishna, Radha was played by Zarina Wahab. What more cultural integration does Pakistan want to see?
    I myself have mentioned umpteen times here that if there is a LOTR scale movie made on Mahabharat, the best actor in my mind who can play Krishna is SRK. He has all the complete package to essay that role. Yet, people will call me SRK-hater.

  3. sputnik
    sputnik
    December 18, 2009 at 8:40 AM

    rockstar,
    “when u see a pakistani says we( with special emphashis ) built the taj mahal and sing rag kamud and describe it as pakistani classical its hillarious to hilt ( a song in braj which describes the flirtious nature of krishna)”
    Did you watch the whole scene? When asked about Pakistan he talks about Muslims (not Pakistanis) having ruled the world and then she hands him over a Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan Cd. I think the scene shows his stupidity and shows that people know Pakistan more by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan’s music than some conquests by these Muslim rulers.

    Here is a review which addresses this same issue.
    “The scene where Mansoor tries to impress Janie by saying that we built the Taj Mahal and that we ruled India and Spain sounds ridiculous. Mansoor implies Muslims as Pakistanis which is totally wrong. May be the director intended to show Mansoor’s stupidity in talking about conquests when music makes much more impact than any conquest. Some Indians may feel that this and an other scene in the prison which mentions Kashmir as jingoistic but can be excused as it is a Pakistani movie and Indian movies have had worse jingoistic scenes than these.”
    http://www.tanqeed.com/movies/kkl.cfm

  4. RAJ
    RAJ
    December 18, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Hey Shiva,

    How r u doing??

  5. NyKavi
    NyKavi
    December 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    It would be foolish to doubt that MNIK will do well. In fact it will defn break all BO records overseas, especially in Gulf/MidEast, Malaysia-Indoneasia, North Africa, and any other place where there is a huge muslim crossover audience. The intended message of this movie appeals hugely to those audiences, there is just no way that this movie can fail.
    But, when SRK claims that this movie will open Bwood to overseas, that satement strikes me as presumptuous. When there is a rich Indian culture and heritage available, which has not even been scratched at the surface, SRK-KJO make a movie on “post 9/11 muslim persecution in the US” and claim that this is India’s premier offering to the world. Maybe if they had any conviction, they wouldve rather made a movie about Mahabharat. You watch Avatar/LOTR, etc. and feel distinct sadness that despite the much superior material available to India, which can add immense meaning to the splendour and spectacle dished out by the likes of Cameron, there is not a single director who can even try to attempt a movie of that spectacle. The Chinese have martial arts as their USP, and they made stuff like Crouching Tiger. We needed a Brit to make Slumdog. God knows when someone will have the conviction to make a true culturally representative movie about Indian values. Current bwood is morally bankrupt in this regard.

  6. RAJ
    RAJ
    December 20, 2009 at 4:47 AM

    “”””
    But, when SRK claims that this movie will open Bwood to overseas, that satement strikes me as presumptuous. When there is a rich Indian culture and heritage available, which has not even been scratched at the surface, SRK-KJO make a movie on “post 9/11 muslim persecution in the US” and claim that this is India’s premier offering to the world. “””

    Nykavi,

    I believe you are making assumptions which may not be true…SRK or KJo never claimed that they are making anything “International” or “”Premium offering”””…They only said they are trying to open up Indian movies to as much markets as possible…(Why not ?)Now these are clearly two different things…

    “”””Maybe if they had any conviction, they wouldve rather made a movie about Mahabharat. You watch Avatar/LOTR, etc. and feel distinct sadness that despite the much superior material available to India, which can add immense meaning to the splendour and spectacle dished out by the likes of Cameron, there is not a single director who can even try to attempt a movie of that spectacle. The Chinese have martial arts as their USP, and they made stuff like Crouching Tiger. We needed a Brit to make Slumdog. God knows when someone will have the conviction to make a true culturally representative movie about Indian values. Current bwood is morally bankrupt in this regard.”””

    THis is absolutely right..But why blame KJo alone..???
    Secondly is movie making is all about showing idian culture alone ??? Yes Martial arts is chinese USP but who the hell watch a chinese movie if every movie deals with that aspect….

  7. RAJ
    RAJ
    December 20, 2009 at 5:01 AM

    On a slightly related note…the Dean headly case is getting murkier day by day…Its quite evident that Headly was a former DEA agent(As Various media reports have suggested) and also might be a CIA agent who went rogue….

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