Here’s what to expect from Aamir’s 3 Idiots

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Aamir Khan’s strategy to market ”3 Idiots” in smaller towns via regional media has been an unqualified success. – Forbes

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Veer Doga 8 November 2009
07:57:17 pm

So Aamir is at it again, showing his perfection.

I guess he likes it clean, whether its his or not, or whether its human or not.

Som 8 November 2009
08:00:00 pm

What the hell! Is it for real? Aamir did that deliberately?

Veer Doga 8 November 2009
08:00:30 pm

Aamir is going to beat Akki in the crassness game also, kudos to him for his persistence.

Ace Khan, Jai Ho.

It re affirms my prediction of 80-85 cr, haters go away.

Veer Doga 8 November 2009
08:03:26 pm

Open the doors and throw all your inhibitions away, lets Analyse the piss and fart jokes.

pardesi 8 November 2009
08:04:01 pm

Akki fans are changing sides already. DDD better watch out.

Som 8 November 2009
08:20:53 pm

Here is the LINK

Tango 8 November 2009
08:23:08 pm

It’s all about prestige and ‘perFECtion’ folks

Those who don’t find it classy are jealous and insecure.

ShakeSpear 8 November 2009
08:23:22 pm

WTF!!! this is the ideal posture for our ‘thinking’ actor!

Aamir and Hirani are sureshot perverts.

Tango 8 November 2009
08:25:40 pm

Who is he ‘thinking’ about

NyKavi 8 November 2009
08:26:21 pm

LOLOL.. kya kar raha hai ghonchu..woh bhi din dahade. Public mein ungli..chi chi chi.

pardesi 8 November 2009
08:27:37 pm

We said “it is Hirani and Aamir, there has to me more!” and THERE IS!

Anna 8 November 2009
08:28:14 pm

write a caption and win a exciting prize

Anna 8 November 2009
08:28:56 pm

Let me try…

” I wanna diggy diggy with you”

ShakeSpear 8 November 2009
08:30:20 pm

“win a exciting prize”

and the prize is … get your ass scratched and fingered by Aamir ‘intellectual’ khan!

Veer Doga 8 November 2009
08:30:59 pm

Even if we try to make a sense of it(seriously), usually people have these habits,like nose picking,cracking knuckles,eating nails etc, but even then his one gives a wrong message.

ShakeSpear 8 November 2009
08:37:05 pm

“write a caption”

here is mine … ‘The Prestige lies … inside the ASS!’

Som 8 November 2009
08:37:56 pm

Doga don’t tell me this is a habbit Ewwwww..

pardesi 8 November 2009
09:07:35 pm

Much was made of Kal Ho Na ho and jokes on holes and such, and how crass and low class that was. I would like to see that topic revisited now. Maybe Aamir is giving a practical on that topic?

Ratner Presents 8 November 2009
10:10:11 pm

I think Aamir has decided to beat SRK in each and every department,
“You think SRK is the only one who can open?”
“You think SRK is the only one who can give bigger hit?”
“you think SRK is the only one who likes ass?”

Anyhow, I think too much is been made of a slight off guarded moment caught on camera.
3I is going all out for urban youth of India, and they, I bet, will like this stuff. Because I guess this is the only way 3I can open as big as RNBDJ, about Ghajini opening, well, Salman give a hit with Wanted in this genre….. need I say more?

RAJ 8 November 2009
10:21:14 pm

‘The Prestige lies … inside the ASS!’

LOL

Anna 8 November 2009
10:27:22 pm

‘The Prestige lies … inside the ASS!’

lol…prize worthy

utkal 8 November 2009
10:43:45 pm

Ratner: Two corrections: One, RNBDJ did NOT open big. Two, while Salamn gave a HIt , Wanted, in the genre, Amir ’s Ghajni uis an all-time Blockbuster, grossing nearly twice that of Wanted. Nedd anyine say anything more?

Anna 8 November 2009
10:45:48 pm

Is 3 Idiots is the movie Aamir Khan had promised to make on the plight of the farmers?

Lagta hai, Aamir khet boneki practice kar rahe hai

Anna 8 November 2009
10:55:43 pm

“seeti baja ke bol Aal izz well”

Aamir wants to bajao seeti in a different style

I(d)I(o)T 8 November 2009
10:57:55 pm

LOL Anna

rks 8 November 2009
11:09:12 pm

Anna ke radar par Aamir.

Ratner Presents 8 November 2009
11:13:01 pm

Utkal, I stopped reading your post after your first line….
Rab ne didn;t open big :d
Where you get your info from?
IBOS??

BTW Anna, hahahahahaha

Some gems there

I(d)I(o)T 8 November 2009
11:32:49 pm

Anna – read the toilet graffiti on idiots academy site.

Anna 8 November 2009
11:47:09 pm

Ido- Nothing new there

I(d)I(o)T 8 November 2009
11:51:51 pm

You can submit your innovative lines

utkal 9 November 2009
12:07:03 am

Ratner, Rab Ne didn’t open particularly big. Ghajni opened much bigger. You can check that on any site.Of course it trended well and netted big eventually. But no, it didn’t open very big.

pardesi 9 November 2009
12:31:00 am

Rab ne opened after terrorist attacks, with minimum publicity, fewer holidays, on close to 175 less screens than Ghajini, and it is the second biggest opening week ever. Did not open particularly big seems like a misleading statement. It was also recovered 55 crores profit on an investment of 30 crores. Try topping that.

RAJ 9 November 2009
02:14:20 am

“”"One, RNBDJ did NOT open big.”"

If its a joke then its good joke if not then it has to be the breaking news of the day…

Secondly without undermining Ghajinis’s achievement it will be ridiculous to compare Gajini with Wanted…Wanted was a out and out action movie which didnt have any appeal in the multiplexes in the contrary Ghajni had a universal theme which appealed to all sections of the audience…

cticize 9 November 2009
02:32:57 am

Ghajini with all it was did insanely, amazingly well on AAMIR KHAN’s merit.

It wsa the case of

AR Murug who ??
Geetha Arts who ??
India Films Who??
Studio 18 who??
Asin who??

Rab Ne still had YRF, Adi Chopra,…no matter it was a rough patch for them but if you say people don’t know em and don’t know the coming together of Adi SRK after 9 years isnt right.

So Ghanjaa did something which is unheard of and try topping 98-100% bookings on weekend. I have never seen that amount of insanity in Multiplxes before.

RAJ 9 November 2009
02:42:33 am

Citicize,

Nobody is debating or denying here about how well ghajni opened…The debate is to somebodys’ response about Rab ne”"didnt open particularly well”"…Which opened amazingly well given the circumstances or otherwise….What was last Yashraj hit before Rab ne??? As per some people here Yashraj doesnt mean anything and rightly so…

Som 9 November 2009
02:52:10 am

The concept of opening has changed now.A film might be a slow starter in the initial shows(the morning and the noon shows) on first Friday but can pick up really well to register close to 100% in the evening and night shows resulting in a good-verygood friday if not extra ordinary.. A film which is netting close to 25cr or even more in a 3 day weekend in today’s time deserves to be called as a big opener IMO.

utkal 9 November 2009
03:36:21 am

rab Ne was an opener.No doubt.ut all I want to say is that it dod not open atht well on Friday and picked up later. That’s a fact. and why is Ghajni any morea love story that Wanted. In fact Wanted has more songs and dances, more duets and more love songs than Ghajni. and the original was a mammoth hit, compared to Ghajni which was just a hit.

RAJ 9 November 2009
03:42:06 am

Utkal,

You are right…The mornings shows didnt quite open to 90 Pct response and i believe poor marketing stategy and Mumbai attacks have a say in that..I am sure Ghajni would have opened much like Rabe ne had it opened on 12 the dec…

Caulfield 9 November 2009
04:01:41 am

What is Hirani trying to do in the film??? Attempting a slightly lighter version of Dev.D, Dil Dosti or a Madhur Bhandarkar film??? The promotions right after the first poster has only been more and more disgusting. The humor is getting more and more vulgar and cheap.

Caulfield 9 November 2009
04:05:36 am

The songs are released!!!! Thanks Manali for giving this information on SB.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
04:33:18 am

Like I said, if someone does not like toilet humor -its their choice. But one cant stop it happening in engineering colleges.

Caulfield 9 November 2009
05:01:00 am

IDIOT,

Yeah, toilet humor do happen in Engineering colleges but a lot of more things also do happen. Like bringing call girls to hostel, trying each and every variety of ‘nasha’, etc. Let me see if they show that too!!!!

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
05:25:17 am

Rab ne for obvious reasons opened 40-50% on Friday but by night shows was a rage with 100%. Also it did around 25 cr first weekend.(something like AJAB), which is huge.

Wanted is superhit at max, Ghajini cant be compared.

Only worthwhile record Wanted has is first Monday(7.25 cr,post EID),if that means anything.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
05:41:41 am

Here are few examples of what went on in hostel toilet areas when I attended engg back in 1989-93. This is pretty much representative of all engg colleges of that era. Female members and the faint of heart male members may skip this at your own discretion:

Regular snatching of towels by guys in the adjoining showerstalls, either for fun, or because they forgot to bring their own towels. The victim offcourse ended up going back to his room naked.
Masturbation contests.
Who’s #$#% is bigger contests.
Usual ragging in the toilets, which involved bodily functions and bodily parts.

A few snippets:
A chikna UP wallah goes to shower, and this group of 3 Balliya biharis peep thru the door cracks, and pass lewd comments on the chikna’s bodyparts. Then they proceed to harrass the poor chap all the way to his room. The chap endures this throughout his 1st year, with the Biharis organising ‘chikna-viewing’ functions, and inviting even more Biharis. There are even balcony views, room views, etc.
A guy goes in to pee at 4am in the morning, and gets taken aback when he sees this 6′3” Jammu dude standing buck naked with a hardon. The Jammu guy smiles and asks him, darta kyon hai yaar, tu bhi aaja. Btw, the Jammu guy is not gay, and has the hottest gf in college. He was just kidding and scaring the shit out of the poor delhiite.
A guy goes to take a dump, and as usual sees these 2 guys emerging together out of the toilet together.
The emergence of the ghost story, about this guy who goes to take a shower at 12am and sees haunted imagery. Off course, after that, a whole bunch of scared shitless guys stop going to the bathrooms after dark.
And so on and so forth. Others may contribute with their own vignettes. Vaise, one can safely say that male engg students are the most perverted in India. Saaf suthre sharmile chokre do-chaar mahine mein #1 besharam ban jaate hain.

Anna 9 November 2009
05:46:08 am

Why engg hostel? This happens in all hostels

NyKavi 9 November 2009
05:52:35 am

If the 3 chikna khans of bwood had ever gone to a hostel, they sure wouldve been harrassed in the toilets. No wonder, Aamir got his start in Holi!
Btw, while on a shoot near an engg college, Salman did get harrassed by a group of Jammu guys in 1990. It ended up in a fistfight.

Anna 9 November 2009
05:57:21 am

Lagta hai kuch zyada hi boldiya How to delete the comment?

NyKavi 9 November 2009
06:01:43 am

Btw, female students in engg used to get adventurous as well, especially after they would hear about the male episodes. A whole bunch of stuff happened in female hostels, which I would rather have a female engg student share here.

Tango 9 November 2009
06:12:24 am

“Why engg hostel? This happens in all hostels”

kyon dark secrets disclose karwa rahe ho. Engg. hostels usually have the most ‘pent up’ fury, I mean a decade or so back.

The reason is simple (as Ravi bhai will confirm) there used to be 90-95 % boys and hardly any girls, most of them in electrical/electronics. To medical aur arts waalon se jealosy hoti thi

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
06:16:57 am

Agree 200% with Tango, Mech branch class anywhere is a madhouse..the language being used, harkate..all cant be compared to other branches.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
06:48:09 am

Tango, aaj bhi woh male-female ratio kitna sudhra hai. If it was 95:5 back then, it maybe 85:15 now. Very lopsided. One reason why females usually stayed locked indoors during Holi.

Anyway, back to the movie, when the “bum-bum bole” video was released, a whole bunch of critics called it crass. Yet the video was hardly reflective of the content of TZP. I would assume this All-izz-well video would be similar. Judging from the reactions so far, 3i sure has excited a lot of collegians.
As for toilet humor, maybe we high society folks breathing rarefied air have forgotten that in India, a toilet event can be witnessed just about anywhere. Utna sab dekhne ke baad, these few stall shots mean nothing. Jab firangi filmon mein rape dikhaya jaata hai, to usko log art kehte hain. Jab desi film mein ek toilet dikhaya jaata hai to usko log crass kehte hain.

Som 9 November 2009
07:30:25 am

LOL Nykavi.. Aapne to kaafi kuch bol diya

NyKavi 9 November 2009
07:41:51 am

Somji, kya maine aapke pichley dinon ki yaadein taaza kar di?

Som 9 November 2009
08:04:55 am

Well.. Nykaviji I am not an engineering student at the first place and I have never stayed in any hostel.. I liked the way you were brutually honest with your experiences.

Caulfield 9 November 2009
08:17:05 am

The image gives me a feeling of what Alex and his gang used to do in the film A Clockwork Orange.

I am not saying 3 Idiots is by any means related to A Clockwork Orange, but playing with the plastic butt in the trailer and the still gave me an impression of A Clockwork Orange.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
08:23:48 am

wow…like that gravatar caulfield.

pardesi 9 November 2009
08:24:14 am

So now of course Aamir is a class act to boldly go where no man has gone before in public, and to boldly show what no film has shown before. Only one saying comes to mind:
Krishna karein to leela, aur karein to gunda!

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
08:28:14 am

Pardesi actually there is better saying for that

Aap kare to pyar, aur hum kare to ….. (fill in the blanks)

Som 9 November 2009
08:28:36 am

Cauli: Aap to kaafi aage nikal rahe hain. Mere ko to kuch A Clockwork Orange jaise nahi laga.

Som 9 November 2009
08:31:22 am

Final word on this pic from my end: It is gross. Period! The stars can go any length to promote their movies.

pardesi 9 November 2009
08:33:51 am

IDIOT, I am sorry I do not understand. Anyway I should not have responded on this thread, it has gone beyond the limit of what a public blog should contain and still be suitably decent. This is what happens when one tries to justify any and everything done by their favorites.

Sad day for NG in my humble opinion.

Caulfield 9 November 2009
08:35:17 am

Som – I said in my comment “I am not saying 3 Idiots is by any means related to A Clockwork Orange….”.

Just playing with plastic butts, gave me feeling of that weird place in the film A Clockwork Orange which had lots of nude plastic women in it.

Otherwise, the concept isn’t related to ACW at all.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
08:40:10 am

Aamir defn needs some explaining to do wrt the above pic. Bhare bazaar mein ungal kyoon kar rahe ho bhai? I would be curious to hear the soundbytes along with that pic.

But, I am not sold on the perceived crassness of the All-izz-well song. People are getting a bit too extreme over here, its not the first time a hindi movie had a shot of someone sitting on a commode, or the backside of a guy peeing in a stall. Its not like they showed a stream of urine like its been done in ‘Jail’. Yet Jail will be hailed as critically acclaimed movie, cause of Bandharkar? Slumdog shows a kid actually taking a dump, and then being covered in shit, and it wins an Oscar. Kisine objection kiya tha?

Som 9 November 2009
08:51:20 am

“People are getting a bit too extreme over here, its not the first time a hindi movie had a shot of someone sitting on a commode, or the backside of a guy peeing in a stall.”

The reactions are such perhaps because of the fact that Hirani is not known for such humor or OTT approach. Had it been directed by someone else, noone would have cared I think. But I do think we should not jump to any conclusion basing this one promo. Lets see how the other promos are.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
08:57:57 am

Som, LRM had a scene where Arshad gets a restroom vacated. There is a guy who is about to take a leak, and he gets thrown out. Tab to kisi ne nahi kaha ke toilet humor daal diya LRM mein?

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
09:00:25 am

Som, Pardesi, NyKavi – do u guys really think aamir has done it intentionally? to promote film? if yes – then I dont know wheather to laugh or cry.
As Kunal said it – so much is made of an off-guarded moment off camera.

Som 9 November 2009
09:01:15 am

Compare the degree of toilet humor(one scene) in LRM and 3 Idiots.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
09:03:24 am

LRM had a dialogue where in “2nd innings” house the inmate says to Aatmaram that he does “net” practise – for getting married at that age.
Hrishikesh Mukherji’s Chupke Chupke had “ek gilas julab” in it – now why that is not crass.

Som 9 November 2009
09:03:41 am

I do think Aamir has done it deliberately IDIOT and I stand by it Have a close look at Aamir’s fingers’ positions

Qalandar 9 November 2009
09:04:06 am

Seems like an unguarded moment to me (his face says it all). Gross pic, though.

pardesi 9 November 2009
09:08:01 am

Yes, that is NOT an off guard moment. And I say that because of the toilet page on the site and the sayings on that wall. That would have to be unguarded too!

Now we have Three Idiots being compared to Slumdog Millionaire (which was life in a slum and not some engineering college, and was this exactly not why it was castigated in India?). And throwing a guy out from a toilet is the same as the discussion on this thread.

Som 9 November 2009
09:08:26 am

Btw heard 3 Idiots soundtrack. Decent.Zoobi Doobi is my pick of the lot. Allz Well and Behti Hawa are good. The rest two Give Me Sunshine and Jaane Nahi Denge are blah..

Caulfield 9 November 2009
09:09:28 am

IDIOT – plz add Caulfield to that list.

With Aamir doing that with middle finger, it is purely intentional !!!!!!

I shouldn’t be saying such things(middle finger) here, but you and Aamir Khan and his other fans are forcing me to do that.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
09:11:08 am

1) Behti Hawa
2) Give me some sunshine
3) All izz well
4) Zoobi Doobi

Jaane nahi denge seems situational. But it is sung very well.

pardesi 9 November 2009
09:12:36 am

milliblog review:
All izz well is no doubt funky and does a 2.0 version of Anu Malik’s pet sound (dhumpachikitha anyone?), but this one-hook-trick can only go so far. Zoobi doobi with its faux-retro-filmy sound is almost pedestrian with extraordinarily predictable sounds, while Shaan’s evocatively penned Behti hawa is perhaps the best this soundtrack has to offer. Give me some sunshine’s thought-provoking dialogs do little to salvage what is a standard, often poorly-sung track. Jaane nahin’s louder portion is the WTF musical equivalent of Parineeta’s Thodo Shekhar – Sonu significantly overdoing the feel! Shantanu does what he usually does, mindless of Aamir’ish expectations!

http://itwofs.com/milliblog/20.....nu-moitra/

Som 9 November 2009
09:22:13 am

Well. Karthik has been very harsh on the sound track I would say. He has literally panned it. The sound track is not as bad as he has made it look like to be. I was not expecting anything great from SM knowing the track record, so I am not exactly disappointed.

Tango 9 November 2009
09:23:31 am

NYkavi-Som, LRM had a scene where Arshad gets a restroom vacated. There is a guy who is about to take a leak, and he gets thrown out. Tab to kisi ne nahi kaha ke toilet humor daal diya LRM mein?

Reason simple hai. Neither Arshad nor Dutt were promoted as PRESTIGE actors, I mean lierally bombarded by this prestige thing about Amir.

To bhai log to aap par bharpoor nazar rakhein ge, agar aap ke fans nirantar hum tuchchya kalakaron ke prashansakon ko is shabd ka prayog kar kar ke apmanit karne ka prayatn kareinge to aapke (not you, generally speaking) atyant adarniye kalakar ke pratiyek karya evam kriya par paini drushti rahegi, samikshakon ki !

pardesi 9 November 2009
09:32:32 am

Well spoken Tango. Prestige and perfection and quality have to be judged similarly for every star. Akki peeing on people and throwing dirty diapers is NOT a PATCH on this photo.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
09:37:51 am

Tango I agree with you why people are irritated. Lekin kisi ek baat ka gussa dusri baat – jo unintentional hai – ye galat nahi hai?
Do u also think this was intentional by Aamir?

rks 9 November 2009
09:46:26 am

It is wise to leave few things as they ARE.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
09:49:16 am

Tangoji

Being Prestigious doesnt mean that one cannot show a bathroom scene. Nishant won the National Award in 1977, and was also nominated to Cannes, yet it had Shabana cleaning a kid’s bum after potty, also her getting repeatedly raped, etc. In that movie, prestige was equated to realism. If toilet humor is a realism of life in an engg hostel, then its depiction cannot be called crass. Toilet grafitti is omnipresent in any college all over the world, so whats the big deal with it? I wont say it is prestigious, because most of it is crazy beyond words. Its stuff that we wont even think of doing once we got out of engg. But it is reality, it happens out there. I am not saying that 3i is an art film, yet it probably has displayed some of what goes on in engg colleges. This movie has taken its inspiration from a wonderful novel depicting life in IIT, but it would be immature at best to think that this movie is being made for the IIT crowd only. It definitely has to imbibe components to justify its sales price. Agar yeh film itni hi prestigious hoti, to isko 100cr mein nahi becha jaata. Ek baar pehle kaha tha ki, hindustan mein aisi prestigious film hoti hi nahi jo ki 100cr mein bik sake.

pardesi 9 November 2009
09:56:52 am

LOL! Now I have heard it all, pehle Slumdog Millionaire, aur ab Nishaant! Soon the film will have an Oscar and a National award prior to release. Prestige and perfection can only give us that outcome, never a crass and gross set of images (Nishaant had disturbing images – many of them, but crass and gross?).

devesh 9 November 2009
10:03:29 am

its completely intentional – and its awesome…lol
reality is for every1 to see…
probably amir’s missing the real thing since a long time,… hahahaha

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
10:04:23 am

IMHO saying someone is Perfect in something or has Prestige is not a thing which is “comparative” or is belittling to others.
Calling someone “King” definately has some shade of it.
But RKS is right.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
10:08:28 am

If people have not experienced going to the toilet in a engineering college male hostel, they surely cannot distinguish between what is crass and what is real. The song obviously invokes all that imagery, and all that buffonery shown is pretty much what goes on out there. But if people want to ignore what really happens in an engg college and call all this crass, let it be their opinion.

Tango 9 November 2009
10:24:22 am

Nykavi- See this topic was put up by Anna. We all know his practical jokes and it was going on like that. I don’t know how exactly people got serious.

Almost everyday there are jokes abour SRK-Karan but I dont see anyone or even me saying stop it and things like that.

So many times Hrithik’s pics and ads have been called things but I dont see his fans getting serious about it.

About Akshay, I have never defended his jokes, but if you draw a parallel to actual happenings in an Engg hostel, Akshay’s language and jokes and antics are also what boys and men use in an all male gathering. No one can deny it.

Tango 9 November 2009
10:27:30 am

I mean the types of gestures that boys indulge in (let us not make fun of our hostel days amongst the ladies here!) the ‘jhonk’, the ‘testing’ and the type of things that one was forced to do during ragging etc. are not really replicated in public.

Bash 9 November 2009
10:39:31 am

Ahem! Ahem! This is the strangest discussion I have read in NG since the post about Maxim pictures of Soha Ali Khan.

Did someone want to know what happens in female college hostels? Well a neat example of it can be seen in this video… Male Male Maruthamale

As you can see the standards are a bit decent in female hostels. Though I must say men’s hostel stuff sounds real scary. Heard of horror ragging stories involving stripping, beatings, slaps etc Strangely guys don’t take it seriously.

So the potty shots and bathroom shots of ‘All izz well’ song can as well be very authentic. Guys do lots of stuff in hostels, so do girls — since its the first taste of freedom most of them have. Big deal. But should they be there in the movie as well?

In the same vein, one can argue that Pee jokes on Akshay Kumar movies also have real life inspiration.

Rocky 9 November 2009
10:43:30 am

SRK in OSO farts wiyhout any shame after being chased by the Thela-wala after he gives his Batlee award speech,No hulla gulla then.
Akhshay Farts in KI – Charon Taraf bawaal khada ho gaya.
IMO both these scenes were gross.

BTW does RAKA stand for Rip Akhshay Kumar’s A..?? LOL !!!

NyKavi 9 November 2009
10:49:25 am

Actually the seriousness started with the discussion on toilet humor. As long as it was limited to the above picture, it was in light vein. Then prestige was thrown into the mix, and also criticism of the toilet graffiti on the website, etc.

Btw, some funny lines in the toilet graffiti on the website, magar lagta hai ki yahaan ki ladkiyon ko yeh lines scandalize kar dengi.

ShakeSpear 9 November 2009
11:00:40 am

The best comment in this amusing thread:

“its completely intentional – and its awesome…lol
reality is for every1 to see…
probably amir’s missing the real thing since a long time,… hahahaha”

keep them coming devesh!

ShakeSpear 9 November 2009
11:04:13 am

A final comment (and a serious one) to conclude this thread:

2009 is a HISTORIC year for BW industry:
1. Akshay Kumar lost his BO.
2. Aamir lost his Prestige.

rkb 9 November 2009
11:18:36 am

Another classic Anna thread!

Jai Ho Anna bhai…

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
11:25:50 am

I never believed in this prestige stuff, point is simple, if you do good/better movies you gain the faith of the audiance(Aamir,SRK), if you take audiance for granted and Churn out bad movies you lose their faith(Salman,Akki to some extent).

So yes we can say Aamir was/has been involved with Better movies but “Prestige”, i never got that.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
11:29:27 am

Doing better movies has a proportional effect on at star’s BO returns also.(As is evident in Aamir’s case, and also i guess has been confused to some extent with Prestige).

rks 9 November 2009
11:44:41 am

Prestige cooker ko bhi kahin hichkiyan aa rahi hongi agar hum usse itna yaad karen to

NyKavi 9 November 2009
11:50:30 am

Completely agree Doga. Unfortunately, for some people, only their fav star can do (or does) the good stuff. Baaki sab bekaar hain. For some, CDI/RBNDJ/OSO etc are ‘manna from heaven’, but TZP/Fanaa/Ghajini are pure tripe. I enjoyed all those 6 movies, without differentiating between who starred in them. And unsurprisingly, all those movies were liked by the mass audiences as well. So it bugs me when a person tries to run down each and every movie of a particular star, without any logical reasoning. If the audience makes RBDNJ and Ghajini hits despite their flaws, who are we to talk about prestige or quality. In their perception, those types of movies were clearly head and shoulders above any others of that time.

Bash 9 November 2009
11:57:28 am

Doga,

I agree with your assessment. The confidence audience show on Aamir Khan starrer is termed as ‘Prestige’ by some useless folks. The same confidence/trust/belief the audience show to Akshay, when it comes to comedy movies or entertainers. This is that belief that takes them to watch the movie FDFS.

I say it again, people who do critical analysis of old movies and keep talking about cult etc have very little say in BO. I mean, most of their personal likings wouldn’t have become big hits nor they would be in sync with public perceptions.

This Prestige term seems to be coined by snobs who want to keep their standards above that of common people. And whatever they term as Prestige maps to the typical expectations audience have from any star.

If critical acclaim and prestige are a big deal, Konkana, Abhay Deol and other PFC gang of actors would be the real Prestigious folks.

Bash 9 November 2009
12:09:29 pm

The strangest thing that the success of Ghajini did is to make these snobs come down from their lofty places and indulge in fanatic discussions about BO verdict, audience reaction, popularity polls, buzz etc and get excited about regular PR planted gossips, insight into real life of Aamir, what others say abt Aamir etc

In short some people who in this very site, claimed themselves to be above Box office related discussions and said supposedly sane stuff like ‘I like quality movies. I don’t bother about their BO verdict. Since Aamir is the only decent actor we have, I like Aamir’ etc … have come down to the level of any other fanatic fan. In fact, more fanatic than most — to even believe perfectly PR planted stuff and get over excited about it in a very, very naive fashion.

pardesi 9 November 2009
12:14:20 pm

Prestige, perfection and good stuff – these are terms used only in the context of one star, and often by those very people who are now shouting that toilet humor is fine in a film! Baaki hum B-grade star fans ko kya pata in sab words ka matlab?

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
12:15:17 pm

Bash, I thought you were of opinion Aamir has virtually no fan following !?!

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
12:16:52 pm

Pardesi, I repeat. I dont believe in Prestige thing but…

“IMHO saying someone is Perfect in something or has Prestige is not a thing which is “comparative” or is belittling to others.
Calling someone “King” definately has some shade of it.
“

pardesi 9 November 2009
12:22:08 pm

And calling oneself Ace and others dog has even more of it!

NyKavi 9 November 2009
12:26:15 pm

I second you Idiot. I too have seen these extreme opinions of Aamir Khan being a fluke, of him having no real massy fans. In the game of oneupmanship, people constantly claim that Aamir has fans who are misguided prestige freaks, and somehow those people are solely the ones responsible for the fantastic business which his movies have done in the past few years. Prestige didnt make 120crs for Ghajini. So obviously, Aamir Khan has fans who dont believe in this prestige business, but are there to see him do stuff which is different or better. Same goes for SRK or HR or even Ranbir lately.
The only reason I argue about Aamir’s BO pull is that the poor guy doesnt seem to garner any Respect when it comes to his BO capabilities. There are dozens of excuses given for the success of his movies. Someone needs to throw cold water to this “Aamir has no star value” theory. Could anyone predict that Ranbir would be giving 25cr openings? So should we say that he too has no star value and is there solely because of XYZ excuse and not the star persona he has crafted for himself. Ajeeb logic hai, everyone else that opens movies is a star, but Aamir Khan is a bakra.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
12:29:19 pm

Yeah, if someone says publicly that he will destroy me repeatedly..even betting on that with my friends for more than a decade.. then I am bound to give a tit-fot-tat.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
12:32:15 pm

Yeah NyKavi, and what above “rising above the script” theory which SRK fans invented ….what about prestige angle of that?

pardesi 9 November 2009
12:33:32 pm

IDIOT – show me the words out of the mouth, and said repeatedly. If you believe that then I have a hard time accepting that you are disbelieving this promotion campaign of Three Idiots.

Who said Aamir is a bakra? He is decent actor and shrewd marketer. And THIS is yet another full blown marketing campaign. Just cannot accept that it adds any prestige to his aura.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
12:47:31 pm

All of them, be it Aamir, Srk, HR, etc are decent actors and shrewd marketers. None of them is any diff from the other. Why even bother to try to hang shenanigans on any of their necks? I think the industry as well as the audience has enough depth and breadth to accept all these guys to do well as long as they can create decent watchworthy stuff.

Bash 9 November 2009
12:53:12 pm

NyKavi,

IF you had not noticed Ranbir becoming a star slowly and consistently, its your mistake. Both Imran and Ranbir had the right kind of buzz since introduction. While Ranbir seems more talented and grounded, Imran had been making lousy choices.

Its easy to predict and its only a matter of time that Ranbir would have his hit. AJAB is a case, where the increasing buzz met the right kind of movie — songs and promotions. This kind of buzz is non existent even today for the poor slob Abhishek.

And in Aamir’s case, why do you have to think that the statement ‘Aamir has no star value’ is something demeaning to Aamir? Aamir has been in advantage due to this. That fans of every actor would watch his movies expecting good quality.

I can vouch that I have heard statements like, “Aamir is a good actor. I like his movies. But Shahrukh is my favorite. I can watch any dumb movie for Shahrukh” many many times. This is why I said Aamir needs to be associated with a good movie.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
12:58:50 pm

“I can vouch that I have heard statements like..”
WTF was that Bash, does it mean I dont exist? I have seen every damn movie of Aamir from 1988 in theatres. And you might have heard statements – I have seen ppl like me “actually” in theatres.

pardesi 9 November 2009
01:02:21 pm

“All of them, be it Aamir, Srk, HR, etc are decent actors and shrewd marketers. None of them is any diff from the other.”

Let these words be framed and kept somewhere. We will need to dust the frame up and bring it out periodically.

Bash 9 November 2009
01:03:09 pm

I(d)I(o)T,

Since you exist, I would have to believe that Aamir was always a star. Point taken.

I(d)I(o)T 9 November 2009
01:05:36 pm

Thanks Bash.
Your words have to be framed and kept somewhere

NyKavi 9 November 2009
01:18:47 pm

Pardesi, if I had not believed that “frameable” statement of mine, I too wouldve migrated someplace else in the blogoshpere. As I already said long ago, NG represents fans of all stars (well maybe not too many of BigB anymore, except yours truely). At least I can find some takers here who believe in the saneful equanimity of stars, as it exists in the industry today.

pardesi 9 November 2009
01:23:28 pm

That is true. And I am a fan of Big B too, still see his films in theaters if I can. Have been trying to convince people to see Aladin, a fun filled fantasy.

I do not believe in the saneful equanimity of stars IF it involves extreme ridicule of some and extreme reverence of others. Has happened on NG in the past, and will continue to happen in the future. It is equal opportunity for all, so I do not understand the firestorm this thread has provoked.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
01:24:26 pm

Bash, this “Aamir has no star value” theory wouldve been true, as long as Ghajini had not happened. You cannot explain away 120crs from a masala potboiler with an unknown director, unknown actress, unknown starcast, except for Aamir. If truely, he enjoyed support of rival fanbases due to quality, Ghajini wouldve petered out at 60-70crs at max. An extra 50crs dont just land up in someone’s lap without his own fans being crazy enough to lap all that masala up.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
01:31:13 pm

Pardesi, I didnt watch Aladin cause I got sick of the same old characterization by Amitabh, but will watch it cause my 7yr old adamantly wants to see it . The guy needs to do only exclusive stuff now. Paa seems to be something different. Hope it turns out well.

Bash, I also agree on the slobness of JrB, a statement for which I was universally panned somewhere else..lol.

pardesi 9 November 2009
01:34:50 pm

NyKavi – yeh kaisa FanDom hai? I would rather see Big B in his larger than life persona playing larger than life characters to the hilt, in his own unique way, than a role that could be gimmicky and strange. No one but he could have been the genie, I simple love him in those sorts of roles.

Bash 9 November 2009
01:46:50 pm

NyKavi,

I believe Ghajini was watched by fans of every actor due to heavy promotion and buzz around it. May be Ghajini has triggered passive fans of Aamir to come alive or may be he acquired new fans with Ghajini. I see these fan centric articles post Ghajini than pre. And I haven’t witnessed the mad frenzy for Aamir as much as I have witnessed for Hrithik/SRK/Salman.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
01:48:02 pm

Then I gotta check Aladin out. I just wasnt impressed with the promos. He does have a unique way, no question. I saw about 20mins of Nishabd, and even though the movie was cringeworthy, his performance stood out.
As for Paa, he seems to be washing his hands in the behti ganga of playing physically/mentally impaired/restricted characters. Itll be interesting to see his avatar.

If ever that Departed remake happens, I would like to see BigB fill JackN’s shoes. And SRK/Aamir as either of Damon/DiCaprio. HR can wait yet…lol.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
02:22:41 pm

Bash, All the promotion and hype can carry a movie for the first 2-3 days max, IMHO. After that WOM takes over. Heavy promotion just doesnt explain the final results of Ghajini.
If you are willing to give this idea a logical benefit of doubt, I feel that he gained a lot more fans after Lagaan and more so with successive releases especially since RDB/TZP. Why do I say this to you, cause I myself had forgotten about Aamir Khan since say the JJWS days. And I came to appreciate his work only after Lagaan, which I only saw after the buzz of its Oscar nomination. Since then, except for DCH, the guy has opened every movie very well. I feel that there are many more like me who have been similarly entertained with his movies post Lagaan, and have been willing to go see his movies at the cinema.

All this prestige/quality stuff is just a distraction. In reality, how can one ignore a well scripted commercial masala or non-masala bwood movie by any decent actor out there. There really arent more than 10-12 good big budget commercial movies in a year that come out of bwood, which is enough to keep all these top5-7 guys working for a while and churning hits. Only actors who take scripts seriously will prosper. Akshay proves that he lost out in that criteria. Saif/Ranbir/Shahid prove that they were smart with their choices.
Lastly JrB and Kareena prove that they dont need scripts or budgets. They have an indestructible lastname. Koi na koi bakra to mil hi jayega jo un dono ko cast karta rahega!

Bash 9 November 2009
02:48:22 pm

NyKavi,

You are forgetting the fact that Ghajini is a perfect scene-to-scene recreation of a successful South Indian masala movie. Such a movie had not been made in Bollywood since a long time. As such Ghajini had the scope to work perfectly well just for its plot heavily borrowed from Momento but blended nicely with Indian masala variants. And the gimmicky get up change which was not required in the first place did the initial trick. Ghajini was a planned gimmick which worked.

Aamir’s supposed genius lies in selecting the film and imbibing the body language which guys like Surya and Vikram do with ease in every other movie. And Bingo everyone said its a Powerful performance. And the unknown South director made Aamir appear even bigger. If you compare with Surya’s version, Aamir overacted at several places.

Right from the first promo, I have always said its a safe gimmick which will pay off. And it did.

NyKavi 9 November 2009
03:15:46 pm

All that reasoning still doesnt explain 120crs! Thats a lot of moolah! Wanted was also a remake but ended at around half of that. You can add all the x factors, to the Wanted total, how much more can we add, 20 crs? 30crs? This was double.
Chalo, another way to look at it. What if Shahid or Saif or AjayD had done this movie, would they have clocked it at 120cr? I dont believe so. IMHO, Only SRK or HR wudve made 120crs with the same movie.

But anyway, lets see how his future releases fare. If indeed he cant pull off some massy entertainers, I will accept that he doesnt quite have the starpower of SRK/HR.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
03:32:33 pm

Great Century Thread by Anna Sir.

ShakeSpear 9 November 2009
03:55:55 pm

Aamir Khan is as big a star as SRK or Hrithik … no doubt about it … they have different strengths, and they can excite the audience equally .. that is the reason they are way ahead of others … the others be it salman/saif/shahid/now ranbir etc enjoy so-called successes at anything between 40-60 cr … the top three will open their biggies in the same range.

120 crores for Ghajini is great from the perspective of these lesser stars … but its hardly something out of the bounds for the top three in current market scenario …unless they underperform – 3I,Kites, MNIK will do business in the same range – the trade knows this … thats the reason 100 crores are invested in each of them.

The reason why Ghajini looks so big is there has been no big release from any of aamir/srk/hrithik since then (RNDJ was a poor movie and was only endorsed by SRK fans and thus cud not match up to ghajini which appealed to every tom dick harry)… the big budget movies that came thereafter are – CCTC, KI, Blue, LD, D6, LAK, wanted, aladin, azab ghzab etc etc – all B-grade stars … is it surprising that most of these flopped badly and the rare hits did 50-60 cr only?

one may make fun of this pic, but whatever the crassness of this movie or its promotion, it is set for a 50 cr opening easily … wait and see.

On the prestige issue, it is a fact that for most of Aamir’s hits from Lagaan onwards – the movies became talking point much more than the star – while for Hrithik/SRK it was the other way round … some call this difference as ‘Prestige’ … but with Ghajini and now 3I that difference no longer exists.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
04:11:52 pm

The way 3I,MNIK and Kites have been mounted and hyped, yes a 50-55 cr nett will be hugely disappointing situation.(Not that it will hurt the top 3,just that they will have to wait 1-1.5 years to strike again).

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
04:21:53 pm

I cant forget the Way Rab ne spread like fire in dry wood across the country after the lukewarm start.

And surely it came soon after i had seen a huge disaster in Yuvvraaj to make it more memorable.

And then came Ghajini and i took 2 months Sabbatical from NG.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
04:23:22 pm

God forbid if Veer flops, i will take a 3 months Sabbatical, MNIK doing 100 cr soon after it will be hard to take.

ShakeSpear 9 November 2009
04:33:52 pm

Veer even if it works will at max do 50-60 cr Doga … the prob is it might be sandwiched between kites and nmik – which is not a great position.

btw, those who just cant think beyond 120 cr of Ghajini needs to think that the differential between ghajini and RNBDJ was 30 cr in 2008 … while the difference between d2 and fanaa was 25 cr in 2006.

also if these 3 biggies underperform, hrithik wud have the luxury of another release in the same year while nothing final is yet known about srk/aamir’s next movie after 3i/mnik.

and i still have the same prediction about the biggies BO – Kites>3I>MNIK.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
04:37:37 pm

Yeah Hrithik can indeed pull of a great year in 2010 if both movies work(and i guess there will be no middle ground for both movies, aar ya paar).

I am still hoping Kites will be shifted to post Exam days in April/May.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
04:52:30 pm

Anyone questioning Aamir Khan’s Star power just needs to wait till 3 I opens.

Veer Doga 9 November 2009
05:00:33 pm

Aamir Khan will have top grosser of the year back to back with Ghajini and 3 I.

First time since Anil Kapoor had it back in 1987-88(Mr India/Tezaab) and before that Big B in 1977-78.

Infact Big B had 5 top grossers out of top 10 in 1978 , and 6 out of top 10 in 1981.But then he was one man industry.

Ratner Presents 9 November 2009
11:05:43 pm

Since everyone was talking about college days, this was our FSLA anthem (Frustrated One Sided Lover’s Association)

Tere pyar mein frustu ho gaye, tere pyar mein frustu
Mere yaar hum frustu ho gaye, mere yaar hum frustu
Tera gora chehra,teri kaali aankhein
Din bhar karti, badi yari baatein
Assignments karoon main, hai rabba
Tere notes main teepon, hai rabba
apne se pehle, tere submission doon

Tere pyar mein frustu ho gaye, tere pyar mein frustu
Tujhe tak tak tak tak dekhe yeh professor tharku
Honde pe baitha, tera rasta takta
Sara mohalla, mujhe aashiq kehta
Yeh sabko pata hai, yeh sabko khabar hai
Par dhyan tera, jaane kidhar hai

Tere pyar mein frustu ho gaye, tere pyar mein frustu
Mere yaar saare bolein ki bete gaya tu
Woh 4th year tha, meri kt aa gayi
Colelge mein milne, teri beti aagayi
Har picture ka pehla, tujhe show dikhaya
Tune naam ke pehle, “Mrs.” na lagaya?
Tu married New york ghoome, main yeh sad sa gana likhon
Sala Amrika ka chhora, ghuma gaya lattu
Tere pyar mein frustu ho gaye, tere pyar mein frustu

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