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If I made 1 movie in 4 years and the movie doesnt make profit i wud be cross. If I made ...
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That was a BOI ploy doga.rnbdj didnt beat sik opening week.They were with 42 cr for rnbdj for 2 weeks ...
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Only thing SIK beat Rab ne was the 3 day Weekend, 28 cr vs 25 cr. Hype for SIK was really ...
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I see them every year in Manali. But recently a few have re-appeared in my town.
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Housefull ATTBB, BOI claimed 43 cr for SIK and 45 cr for RNBDJ..Then they cgnaged it to 39 cr for SIK ...
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This year Akshay will give a reply to his distractors. While Karan's friends have started deserting his camp (Read Farha ...
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Ihab its ok.i did not find lakshya engaging enough.i liked it in parts.It was too slow and boring in second half.
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" Ihab,since you like Hrithik, would you like to elaborate on you watching Krrish 16 times in Theatres . " Lol, ...
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From being most common bird to their total disappearance from cities within a very short span of time (last 10-15 ...
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Gabber 26 February 2009
07:52:58 pm
Taran Adarsh: Delhi 6 makes a dramatic turnaround, gets record 8th day collections; gets bigger opening than Jodha Akbar
Link
Karle mushkil Jeena Beld Kameena 26 February 2009
08:05:51 pm
The name Gabber is usually associated with villainy. Of late – it is being associated with comedy
Gabber 26 February 2009
08:22:21 pm
Jeene ke hain chaar din
baaki hain bekaar din
Kites lovers ko jalaayen
jalaayen jalaayen
Ek baar jo jaaye
stardom phir naa aaye!
A C H I L L E S 27 February 2009
07:25:28 pm
Variety says the UTV gross for weekend in India is 2M dollars … thats 25 cr … the 27.5 cr that was reported may be an initial estimation
UTV crosses borders
Som 27 February 2009
07:35:28 pm
Top 5: ‘Delhi 6′ is an absolute letdown!
Delhi-6 Did well over the weekend at multiplexes of big centres, after a slow start on Friday. Monday being part holiday, the film was okay at some screens, but single screens as well as mass-dominated centres performed poorly. The film fell on weekdays. 8th day opening was lukewarm.
Billu Flop
Dev D Best at some multiplexes of big centres. Flop in several circuits
Luck By Chance Flop
A C H I L L E S 27 February 2009
08:03:10 pm
B.O. update:- New releases open to very poor houses
The two new releases, KISSE PYAAR KAROON? and SIDDHARTH – THE PRISONER, opened to poor houses everywhere. While KISSE PYAAR KAROON? opened across the country, SIDDHARTH – THE PRISONER has opened at few cities, on limited screens. The business is not likely to pick up over the weekend… Meanwhile, DELHI 6 had a lukewarm start at plexes on its eight day [Friday].
Som 27 February 2009
08:08:18 pm
Weekly collections at Indiafm
Delhi-6 – Week 1
# Mumbai – 1,68,82,478 (53 Unrecd. Incl. Thane)
# Ahmedabad – 76,05,500
# Gandhinagar – 2,80,550
# Himmatnagar – 1,19,656
# Rajkot – 5,06,192
# Baroda – 17,08,210
# Bharuch – 2,51,655
# Pune – 22,65,919
# Nasik – 7,33,569
# Goa – 9,92,880
# Delhi – 2,47,79,240
Som 27 February 2009
08:11:26 pm
Mumbai has been ignored, Ahmedabad is ok. Delhi region looks fine.Jaipur is poor.I guess the first week could be around 25cr or so.
A C H I L L E S 27 February 2009
08:18:07 pm
Indore Barometer 8th Day Delhi 6
Delhi 6 crashed heavily (over 80%) on the 8th day Indore multiplexes. Below are the figures for second Friday with first Friday numbers in brackets.
PVR
Delhi 6 – 38,290 (1,75,770)
Inox
Delhi 6 – 23,840 (1,36,270)
Big (Adlabs)
Delhi 6 – 13,850 (95,430)
Velocity
Delhi 6 – 5,070 (95,470)
Total
Delhi 6 – 81,050 (5,02,940) -83.88%
Som 27 February 2009
08:55:25 pm
Delhi 6 Is Well Below The Mark
Kisse Se Pyaar Karoon opened to a poor 1-5% response.
Siddharth – The Prisoner also was very dull with 1-5% opening.
Delhi 6 had a poor to average week one. The film collected around 22 crore nett in week one, the weekend figures were 15 crore nett and not 18 crore nett as mentioned on the site earlier. The eighth day has seen collections fall aound 60-80%. The best collections have come in Delhi/NCR and Mysore but recover looks near impossible even with no competition this week as new releases are very dull.
Billu falls heavily in week two with 3.50 crore nett business. Its two week total is around 21.50 crore nett. FLOP
Dev D adds 1.25 crore nett in week two to take its total to around 12.75 crore nett. ABOVE AVERAGE
utkal 27 February 2009
09:03:50 pm
So after Akshay, it is Sharukh among the big 4 who has a flop. That leaves only Amir and Hritik as the last men standing.
neelu 27 February 2009
09:49:10 pm
Utkal what was LBC?
A C H I L L E S 27 February 2009
10:23:15 pm
As i said before the fate of Billu will be clear after second week … and yeah it has flopped … after a string of hits SRK has a flop … it hurts him more as a producer than an actor in this case.
Billu becoming a Flop doesnt suddenly make LBC any more of a Hrithik movie … its redundant to compare the screen time or the number of item numberss of SRK in Billu with that of Hrithik in LBC.
As for D6, again I have been correct that the 18 cr figure suggested by BOI was way off the mark … at least BOI has the guts to come out and accept their mistake and also Taran has labeled Billu as a Flop (as I said before he gives the correct verdict in the end).
All the hypothesis of 26-28-30 cr first week for D6 goes out of the window .. Taran’s reported centers suggests a 22-23 cr opening week when compared with CCTC or JA’s week 1 figures … from the reports coming in from day 1 (except for the BOI’s 18 cr one which was incorrect), it was evident a first week of 25 cr or above was impossible.
And with the movie having crashed at the BO since last tuesday, i dont see it collecting much from here.
utkal 27 February 2009
10:47:48 pm
Neelu, LBC is not a Hritik movie. His is a spl appearance, with one song and few minutes of screen time. Sharukh has four songs and almost half an hour of screen time over and above. But the most important fcator is that the movie is about Irfan and Sharukh. His character is central to the movie. Just as TZP was about Darsheel and Amir, even if Amir comes in at half time. Yes it’s aprtial failure for Hritik, but not to the extent Billu is for Sharukh.
neelu 27 February 2009
11:02:54 pm
Both were special appearances, I am sure that is exactly what people would have said if it had worked really well at the BO. The film was about Billu and his life and how his life got turned upside down. The star was in some filming sequences, a monolog of 4 minutes and a final scene. Same is true for Hritik, with one item song, and 2-3 sequences that were significant for the film. Neither success or failure of these films belongs to either Hritik or SRK as actors. Now we can fractionate and draw up percentages etc – but the end result is the same.
B H A I 28 February 2009
08:30:19 am
Jay bhai’s report
Delhi 6 1 Week Total = 23.0-24.5Cr(Week 1) = 23.0 – 24.5Cr
More here..
http://satyamshot.wordpress.co.....-response/
Karle mushkil Jeena Beld Kameena 28 February 2009
08:39:58 am
Jay used to add 1cr more(at least) to Abhishek movies. Seems like that trend is continuing..
Btw ach – i am convinced BOI and possibly Taran/India FM have someone here as a member or are regularly monitoring NG. I feel you should take credit for BOI changing its numbers for D6 weekend. Way to go..
julie 28 February 2009
08:44:42 am
Lol Beld – Ach is our new BO expert. He certainly has the knack with numbers and trend prediction.
As far as I can see Jog, Taran, BOI all have D6 in the range of 22-23 crores. Even IBOS has it at 25 and that is all sauce and pepper garnished.
RAJ 28 February 2009
09:18:51 am
When Billu released ,even i was not at all excited to watch the movie in the first weekend(Eventhough i watch all SRK movies religiously on the first weekend)….Because i knew SRK is not in the lead…
Core SRK lyalists knew what the movie is about…So i dont think its apt to term Billu as a SRK flop.
A C H I L L E S 28 February 2009
09:33:05 am
LOL Beld .. but yeah my reading of the D6 box-office proves right … maybe I am lucky or that my interpretations of the reports were on the mark.
Btw, as usual Jay is playing up with Abhishek movies …he has compared D6 with Billu, Raaz … its common sense that these movies are not even in the range of 20-25 cr opening to make a relative comparison … maybe BHAI shud ask him why he did not compare with JA and SR?
Julie – As Beld said earlier, since IBOS says an abhishek movie is 25 cr, then its surely not more than 22-23 cr … incidentally i got the same range wheen i compared it with SR/JA/CCTC .. BOI is right on the money after their correction … and even Taran was on the mark with his D6 commentary … as i said at that point, the reported center figures will bare who is saying the truth.
RAJ 28 February 2009
09:58:58 am
Beld,
Agree here..definitely trade sources are monitoring NG..especially when experts like jay,Rudresh,Joginder,Tangom,som and now Achillies are doing the analysis..
utkal 28 February 2009
10:36:30 am
Srk’s was a spl appearance in Billu, but a spl , spl appearance. Like Rajni in Kusalan. When it flopped Trajni took the responsibility. That’s like a true superstar. You cannot shoot 4 songs with yourself, use them in the promos, and when the film flops, claim it’s not your film.
If it was an Irafn film, why the wild predictions before the film’s release? Which other Irfan film ( without other stars) had grossed that much. Clearly, the prediction so 50 cr plus predictions was made as an SRK starrer.
That wont afrfect him that much as an actor with 3 blockbusters behind him is correct and another matter altogether.
Som 28 February 2009
08:32:13 pm
“Jay used to add 1cr more(at least) to Abhishek movies. Seems like that trend is continuing..
Btw, as usual Jay is playing up with Abhishek movies”
Will be better if we stick to the topic instead of discussing about a fellow member especially when the concerned member is not here to defend his/her stand.Thanks!
sv 28 February 2009
08:48:29 pm
Jay can come anytime to defend his estimates.Anyway we have some members who are doing it here.
Karle mushkil Jeena Beld Kameena 28 February 2009
11:26:39 pm
>>Will be better if we stick to the topic instead of discussing about a fellow member especially when the concerned member is not here to defend his/her stand
Ridiculous is all i can say. First this was in reference to his reporting which we felt was wrong. Second this report is not on this site – so he ceases to be a member – this was perfectly justified – just the way we treat a Taran report or whatever. Third – whether he is around or not is immaterial. We are commenting on his BO report and not him. Please go check the archives on his reporting on Guru, Sarkar Raj etc.
Please do not over-moderate this site and use moderation as the excuse. Thanks!
Som 1 March 2009
12:01:47 am
TOP 5 FILMS
Som 1 March 2009
12:11:51 am
Actor Abhishek Bachchan, whose movie Delhi 6 is released recently tells Jyothi Venkatesh that Drona failed to click at the box office because its screenplay was its undoing and also adds that he and Aishwarya Bachchan have no plans to have a baby as of now.
The film has not taken the box office by storm but when I meet him for this interview at his office in the bungalow Janak, Abhishek tells me that what appealed to him when he was offered the film Delhi 6 was the fact that though Roshan is an American by mind, he is an Indian by heart. “It was not at all tough for me to get into the character of Roshan, because I could easily connect to it, since I could understand him, having spent twelve years abroad in a different culture. I could relate to the character because like Roshan, I too had learnt abroad and know how it is to feel like an outsider, though born and brought up in a hard core Indian family, steeped in the culture of the ancestors”.
More HERE
rks 1 March 2009
12:16:24 am
Without going into who is correct. There is no basis to say I am more correct than other. Like Ach is giving interpretation of data, If i like it I will take it but I have no reason to say your numbers are bogus. If I say bogus then I need to show how the numbers are bogus. Otherwise my statement would be reduced to an opinion.
Karle mushkil Jeena Beld Kameena 1 March 2009
04:49:22 am
>>Otherwise my statement would be reduced to an opinion.
so? isnt this site all about opinions? btw there are solid facts to prove that certain reports fudge numbers for Abhishek movies. Go check the guru report or how the SR report was changed. Again – only reason that came into play here is that someone posted a report from another site here where this particular individual had given a number which seemed very spurious based on some good analysis done by mature members of NG. Whether that individual is a member of NG or not is immaterial – this report wasnt published on NG – so it becomes fair to critique it just like we critique any BO report from third party sources
Som 1 March 2009
09:57:57 am
IBOS incidentally has 24.64cr for Delhi 6.
A C H I L L E S 1 March 2009
10:26:10 am
If IBOS says 24.6 cr, then my estimation is on the mark … LOL
rudresh 1 March 2009
07:29:28 pm
Seems like mine are highest of D6 24.5-25.5
rudresh 1 March 2009
07:31:05 pm
Wow atleast I am in IBOS range
rudresh 1 March 2009
09:27:18 pm
Ananlyis D6: Comparison with CCTC
CCTC and D6 are the movie which released with alomost same prints and has performed almost similar in all the centers.This is clear from the given centers as apart from mumbai which has been incomplete as per indiafm numbers ,I did not required to remove any centers from comparison as far as D6 perspective, two centers has been removed from group E as they seems unreported for CCTC.
1) Group A: Delhi is only reported center. Mumbai not considered.Here both the movies perfomed almost same. d6 was 96% of CCTC. considering only mumbai as another center in this group for CCTC. So group A total for CCTC is 6.96 Cr and thus my estimation for that was 6.66 Cr for D6
2) Group B: 3 centers for the CCTC has been reported in this and all the three reported for D6 also. This gives the d6 as 68% of CCTC. Assuming other 3 centers fall in this group my estimated total for CCTC in this group is 4.85 Cr and D6 as 3.34 Crs in this group.
3)Group C: here also 3-3 same centers has been reported for the D6 and CCTC. here D6 is 1.26 times more than CCTC. Assuming the 8 centers fall in this group for CCTC, cctc estimated total comes as 4.12 and that for D6 as 5.20 Cr.
4) Group D: Here same 4 centers has been reported for CCTC and D6. Assuming 16 centers falls in this group CCTC estimated total is 3.85 and that for D6 is 4.67 Cr. her ed6 is 1.21 times more than CCTC.
5) Group E: here reported centers for CCTC are more than D6. Comman reported centers are 13 and total 33 are reproted for CCTC. Total centers assumed here are 175. and my estimated total for CCTC is 2.90 and for D6 its 4.22 Cr. In these centes D6 is 1.45 times more than CCTC.
6) group f: here no center reported for D6 and 24 are reported for CCTC. Here estimated total for CCTC is 36 lakhs and assumed centers are 150 centers. estimation for D6 is 59 lakhs.
Its clear that apart from the centers falls in gorup and group B for CCTC, D6 has performed much much better than CCTC. For both the movies higher collection centers are very few and maximum falls under the small groups.
Thus total 23 Cr for CCTC gives 24.62 Cr for D6.
A C H I L L E S 1 March 2009
09:46:37 pm
Rudresh – Nasik and Nagpur are the two centers where D6 is abnormally higher than CCTC … if you ignore them, all other centers give exact total for D6 and CCTC … so if your CCTC total is 23 cr (mine is lower) then D6 wud be same.
I think the Mumbai figure holds the key here to gauge if D6 is indeed higher than CCTC … lets wait for FI.
rudresh 1 March 2009
10:02:19 pm
its trending whihc is more important than sum total. As u can see all the centers falling in lower brackets has performed much better for D6.
rudresh 1 March 2009
10:02:44 pm
And from where you had taken cct opening week 20.5 cr??
A C H I L L E S 1 March 2009
10:17:14 pm
The small centers doing better wont have any significant effect when the bigger ones are lagging behind.
As for CCTC, you can check here.
rudresh 1 March 2009
10:33:10 pm
small and big centers are relative here. For CCTC chances for falling in lower bracket is higher than falling in upper bracket. Like Kolkatta and noida in group C.
A C H I L L E S 1 March 2009
10:35:50 pm
The trending will be out in the open whe the week 2 figures come in from Trade Guide and FI …I am not expecting D6 to hold better in any particular bracket … but lets see.
rudresh 1 March 2009
10:40:01 pm
I am not talking about second week.
rudresh 1 March 2009
10:42:47 pm
But I donot think D6 is lower than CCTC.(99%).
numbers are very less and similar kinda center falls in two groups( like noida in C and gurgaon in B) So if other similar kinda center performed like gurgaon then ofcourse D6 will be lower and if in C then it will be higher.
julie 2 March 2009
03:27:00 am
IBOS is way off as usual.
If we are to take the domestic gross at face value (which is the figure that IBOS has on it’s website) then on a convesrion factor of 0.6 it translates into a net of 20 crores; on 0.65 it translates into 21.76 crores and on 0.7 it translates into 23 crores. Nowhere does it translate into 24.65 crore net (a figure that they have on their website. One can argue that the gross might be incomplete, but then how are they randlomly arriving at the net of 24.65 crore. Can anyone throw more light on this? Is this discrepancy or not.
Most grosses are translated on 0.65 conversion factor as far as I have been folliwing the recent Bo debates. Maybe our resident trade experts tango, rudresh, Achilles will be able to throw light on the convesrion factor used?
Som 2 March 2009
04:56:41 am
“Most grosses are translated on 0.65 conversion factor as far as I have been folliwing the recent Bo debates. Maybe our resident trade experts tango, rudresh, Achilles will be able to throw light on the convesrion factor used?”
Conversion is a tricky thing because of the differences in the entertainment tax levied on single screens and multiplexes.In single screens the ET is on the higher side as compared to say multiplexes.There is no full proof method to calculate, though most of the trade analysts do take 0.60-0.65 as the conversion rate.Coming back to IBOS,It does apply different conversation rate to different movies.Just look at the conversation rates applied this week:
Delhi 6: 0.73
Billu: 0.69
Dev.D: 0.68
SDM: 0.75
LBC: 0.67
Som 2 March 2009
05:07:19 am
BO Report: Audience give Siddharth-KPK a miss
Brian Charles 2 March 2009
05:12:35 am
Midweek from Indiafm
http://www.bollywoodhungama.co.....index.html
D6 = flop
Billu = flop
rudresh 2 March 2009
05:19:19 am
agreed julie they had used 73% for d6.
And i also think that 23 cr is right range as apart from cctc and billu none other movie giving me the estimation more than 23 Cr.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
05:30:46 am
Rudresh – I have always appreciated your methodology, but as I said earlier, you have just used the wrong movie (Billu) for D6 … also due to less number of reported centers, my analysis of CCTC vs D6 has less margin of error than yours … being a mathematical person, u can understand what i am saying.
I suggest you take a couple of other movies into consideration and adjust the D6 range accordingly, else I feel your d6 numbers have a good margin of error this time.
Julie – I consider it a waste of time to think about anything related to IBOS … but one thing is sure, if they say 24.76 cr, then you can straight away minus 2-3 crores to get the real number … incidentally when you do that its exactly my estimated range of 21-22 cr opening week.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
05:37:05 am
Its not just Taran, Rediff is also calling Delhi 6 a Flop:
Rediff Link
I wont be surprised if D6 has crashed in week 2 ala CCTC.
julie 2 March 2009
05:43:58 am
thanks som. I still do not understand their rationale behind applying different conversion rates for different movies and that too so variable. It is not like they are getting a detailed Entertainment tax break up for each and every screen so soon. That is next to impossible, so either way the logic fails. As far as I understand the multiplex Ets are in fact supposed to be higher. Even BOI took so much time (almost a year) in some cases, and even more in others, to get the detailed break up of ETs before adjusting the net against gross.
Ach / rudresh – It is not just a question of not just taking IBOS seriously. It is a question of giving total baloney to the readers in relation to movies of certain stars(as if people will not question such discrepanceies).
julie 2 March 2009
05:59:36 am
Krissh was for instance was a single screen dominated release. After adjustments a few years later, BOI had the net up almost by 6-7 crores. SIK’s net was adjusted downwards (maybe again because of the multiplex factor).
rudresh 2 March 2009
06:00:26 am
Ach , May be i too cautious this time not to put lesser number for D6
rudresh 2 March 2009
06:00:54 am
I will do analysis again but with FI numbers
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
06:11:10 am
LOL Rud … i know what u mean. I am also waiting for FI.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
07:33:57 am
Julie – The reason I dont even try to see any logic in IBOS reporting of Bachchan movies is because they use some absurd way or another to give a higher number for such movies … this time they blatantly took an illogical conversion factor to arrive at the highest possible week 1 number for D6.
When producers like are using 0.6 coversion factor to release their NET figures .. IBOS uses 0.73 conversion factor for Delhi 6 … enuf said!
even using 0.65 conversion factor (which is higher than the industry accepted 0.60 factor) on the reported gross and you get the Net collection in the range 21-22 cr.
Such antics from IBOS are conspicuous and their most avid supporters are fully aware of all these.
Tango 2 March 2009
07:49:06 am
Julie, Ach and others.
On the gross to net conversion issue.
A couple of years ago we had discussed this with Komal Nahta and he had given us a conversion of .72 something (given the multiplex to single screen distribuion at that point of time). He had told us that it will come down as multiplexes increase.
Till about ayear or so back we were using 0.65. From Dostana onwards the multiplex heavy movies have been converted with 0.60 crores.
In fact, the gross to net conversion was clearly given for Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi by Yash Raj.
I used the same for Chandni Chowk To China and am still using it.
Tango 2 March 2009
07:50:36 am
**0.60** no crore there!
Tango 2 March 2009
07:54:24 am
Ach bhai how dare you say such things about such a respected BO source like IBOS?
Have you not seen IBOS links at very respectable blogs
julie 2 March 2009
08:04:39 am
Tango – increasing tax rates for mulitplex screens makes perfect sense. they are extremely popular and attract the elite and opulent cinegoers, hence the multiplexes can pad up the pricing of window tickets. Take PVR in Delhi for instance. Mindboggling window ticket prices. Last time I was in Delhi (that was over a year back, I think we remeber having shelled out close to 250 Rs. per person as window price). Thus the taxman will come down harder on multiplexes by that token. I think there was a period in 2003 when the multiplexes started out, the Sheila Dixit gave some tax hoildays to certain multiplexes. Am not throughly sure on this (but this was a view to encourage the multiplex business to thrive). Now that the multiplex business is booming, the tax man has apllied it’s scissors.
Tango – Interstingly when producers themselves want to use higher taxes (maybe with a view for filing for tax returns) you have the odd instance of such discrepancies reported.
Those figures above also throw an interesting light or comparison on SDM and D6 tax rates. SDM has a low tax rate of 25% and D6 has 27% for this particular week. But then isn’t SDM made tax free across the board in all the Metros since Feb 23 2009, whereas D6 hasn’t been.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
08:08:45 am
Tango – Thanks for the info on conversion factor over the years … an imp bit of information there.
julie 2 March 2009
08:13:01 am
Delhi 6: 0.73
Billu: 0.69
Dev.D: 0.68
SDM: 0.75
LBC: 0.67
Source: IBOS
Tango 2 March 2009
08:17:01 am
Tango – Thanks for the info on conversion factor over the years … an imp bit of information there.
Happy that you liked the info. Thankfully, no one around to confuse the issue or atribute motives for that
All the same I’ll discuss the same with Komal Nahta again.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
08:17:07 am
Julie – Its not just the conversion factor that makes the IBOS D6 number quite ridiculous … lets look at this way, IBOS has a 25 cr opening week for Sarkar Raj … even if I assume that their SR number is right , and then compare SR opening centers with D6 ones, the results show D6 is lagging behind SR.
these are IBOs googlis that I have ceased to give any importance.
Tango 2 March 2009
08:20:57 am
BTW- That 250 you shelled is peanuts today.
Just 2-3 days back ( as I told Rocky) I was there to test facilities at a new Adlabs property at a C centre and they plan to have the highest ticket at 200 Rs. !
Tax Holidays are not a Delhi phenomenon. 5 year tax holidays has been granted to most NEW multiplexes and cineplexes by almost all states.
rudresh 2 March 2009
08:29:51 am
“Till about ayear or so back we were using 0.65. From Dostana onwards the multiplex heavy movies have been converted with 0.60.”
Thnaks tango u had provided the good reason to use similar kinda performing movie comparison.
Now D6, i think has performed almostequally well in small centers/single screen dominant centers(I think even better) so .65 will be better ration for it.??? is not it
julie 2 March 2009
08:36:10 am
Tango – I can beleive that PVR must be priced at 400 or 500 Rs. now. I think I visited it closer to over a year ago but a little less than 2 years back. The mindboggling ticket pricing has a lot to do with the way the economy has been booming over the past 2-3 years. Only the recent slowdown will hit the entertainment industry too (if it hasn’t already started hurting). I believe the window ticket prices have started coming down by 10-20% already in a few multiplexes and single screens.
Ach – Sorry to be needling you again, but can you tell me what was JA’s first week Domestic Gross and then what was the conversion factor applied (Going by Tango’s rate it was 0.65). I have read reports which have the gross ranging from 38-40 crores during the first week.
Interestingly – I think Ghajini’s record will be stable for quite a while given that we have seen the end of the boom period and are bordering a slowdown period in India and deep recession worldiwde. I don’t know – maybe this is the economist in me speaking
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
09:25:42 am
Julie – The Opening Week gross of Jodhaa Akbar as per UTV is 38.5 cr GROSS .. they had also mentioned the NET was 24.76 cr.
Applying the 0.65 conversion factor the calculated NET is 25.025 cr … and using 0.60 coversion factor we get 23.1 cr.
UTV had used 0.65 conversion factor for JA … the same should apply for D6.
But when Rudresh and Jayshah compared JA reported centers with other movies, both arrived at a figure of 23 cr which is same as applying 0.6 conversion factor to the reported gross.
Anyway you look at it, JA opening was in the range of 23-25 cr.
Btw, I have been closely analysing the reported centers of JA by Taran for all the weeks … I have some interesting results which I am sure you will be interested in … i think many will, as that movie’s collections were scrutinised to all possible extent and every estimation on it had some bias or politics behind it.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
09:44:53 am
Rudresh – Regarding the conversion factor for D6 … my analysis showed something interesting … I am considering 23 cr as JA opening in all my analysis … with that when I compare the reported centers of D6 with JA, I get D6 opening in the range 22-23 depending what you assume the D6 collection for Rajasthan is … If you have 23-24 range for D6 then your methodolgy shud have an opening number above 24 cr … and if you get 23 cr for JA and 23+ cr for D^ – then obviously you have taken the wrong movies in your comparison of the two, hence your estimations of D6 and JA are contradicting each other.
Going by Jay’s number on D6 (as posted by BHAI) even his analysis has the same contradiction … but i am not surprised as he is always soft on abhishek movies due to political reasons.
Som 2 March 2009
09:59:25 am
Ach:There was some discrepancy related to JA’s Delhi numbers. It was 1.94cr as per FI. Taran had 2.35cr.
A C H I L L E S 2 March 2009
10:13:47 am
Som – Thats the first week Delhi figure you are talking about?
As far as I remember the FI one (1.94 cr) was used by Jay and Ruderesh … I am using the same one too.
Thanks.
Som 2 March 2009
10:19:00 am
“Som – Thats the first week Delhi figure you are talking about?”
Yup! First week Delhi figure.
Som 2 March 2009
08:14:09 pm
2nd weekend Delhi 6 in US
Weekend gross: $150,840
% change: -75.0%
Total to date: $809,035
Gabber 2 March 2009
08:23:21 pm
hmmm…so D6 did outgrossed JA in its opening weekend.
huhuhu hahahaha !
Som 2 March 2009
08:26:53 pm
Kuch dino se main dekh raha hoon kaafi enjoy kar rahe hain,Gabber!Kya baat hai bhai?
Gabber 2 March 2009
08:28:05 pm
I am shocked at the complete rejection of Billu – Disaster.
It was not that bad, though it never looked to be good enough to be a below average. But a disaster is something i never thought off.
Aamir is undoubtedly the No 1 now followed by SRK, Akshay, Hrithik and Shahid Kapoor.
Gabber 2 March 2009
08:30:56 pm
‘Kuch dino se main dekh raha hoon kaafi enjoy kar rahe hain,Gabber!Kya baat hai bhai’
Som…good to see you referring to me in first person again.
It’s true that I am enjoying a lot on NG nowadays and that is not because of my friends taking a temporary hiatus from NG but because few of my other freinds are coming more often on NG.
Som 2 March 2009
08:44:43 pm
Delhi 6 in UK
Weekend gross: £34,417
% change: -70.42
Total to date: £191,758
B H A I 2 March 2009
10:49:07 pm
“few of my other freinds are coming more often on NG.”
Am I one among them Gabber Sait?
Som 3 March 2009
07:28:29 pm
Overseas Box office
Business Talk with Taran Adarsh
Som 3 March 2009
11:53:26 pm
Indore Barometer Second Weekend Delhi 6
Delhi 6 Has Huge Fall In Second Weekend
Som 3 March 2009
11:58:05 pm
How Much Has Billu Lost And How Big Of A Flop Is It
Q. Any Chance that Dhoondte Reh Jaage can succeed at the box office?
A. The promos are good and if the product is good it may turn out to be a surprise success and it is a good time to release as no film is going strong at the moment..
V Arora
Q. How much has Billu lost and how big of a flop is it?
A. The losses are around 10-12 crore for the Worldwide distributors but it’s likely that Red Chillies may reimburse the distributors from their 20 crore plus profits but putting all that aside the main thing is that India theatrical business is poor and much below expectations.
Amin Abbas
Q. Do you think recession has hit the box office in the beginning of 2009?
A. There is a recession in the industry but it is more with the prices of Satellite rights, Music rights and Home Video rights. The box office has suffered due to poor films when a good film comes it will show that the theatrical business is not suffering due to recession.
Sanjay Ram
Q. What is the India distributor share of CCTC, Raaz, Billu and Delhi 6?
A. 16 crore, 12.25 crore, 11.50 crore (expected), and 15 crore (expected) respectively.
P. Nair
Gabber 4 March 2009
12:52:41 am
‘Am I one among them Gabber Sait?’
Sure BHAI. any thoughts on the following BOI info –
Q. How much has Billu lost and how big of a flop is it?
A. The losses are around 10-12 crore for the Worldwide distributors but it’s likely that Red Chillies may reimburse the distributors from their 20 crore plus profits but putting all that aside the main thing is that India theatrical business is poor and much below expectations.
Karle mushkil Jeena Beld Kameena 4 March 2009
01:16:12 am
>>any thoughts on the following BOI info –
Kahe paise pe itna suroor karen hai
Yahi paisa tho apnon se door karen hai! door karen hai!
Gabber 4 March 2009
01:39:57 am
LOL Beld (or rather KmJBK or KB)
‘Yahi paisa tho apnon se door karen hai! door karen hai!’
I hold an opposite view.
Som 4 March 2009
04:41:10 am
Delhi-6 a flop, collections drop heavily
A C H I L L E S 4 March 2009
05:13:31 pm
Even without any new releases, D6 drops by 70-75% overseas and 80% in India … it will be lucky to cross 30 cr from here.
Som 4 March 2009
07:56:53 pm
Weekly collections 20/02/09-26/02/09
Delhi 6 22,58,00,000
Billu 3,67,00,000
Dev D 1,33,00,000
Slumdog Crorepati (Dubbed) 71,00,000
Slumdog Millionaire (English) 16,00,000
Som 4 March 2009
07:57:45 pm
Delhi 6 Falls Heavily
Delhi 6 fell heavily in International markets. Its 10 day business is 1.50 crore in United Kingdom, 4.25 crore in North America and 2.75 crore in UAE. Its total overseas business is around 9.50 crore. FLOP
Billu is coming to the end of its run and will finish on around 13 crore. AVERAGE
Punjabi film Jag Jeondeyan Mele is super strong in UK and Canada with just 30-35% drop in second week. Overseas business after 10 days is 1.25 crore.