Thanks for this. I can’t still judge the two romantic tracks but Aye Bachcho just blew my mind. I easily visualise Jiah Khan in this very raunchy number. Also, the last one, Latoo Latoo seems to be a winner.
Don’t know if I can listen to the songs in the new few days, as I leave for IFFI Goa.
Thanks for this. I can’t still judge the two romantic tracks but Aye Bachcho just blew my mind. Easy to visualise a very raunchy Jiah here. Also, the last one, Latoo Latoo seems to be a winner.
Don’t know if I can listen to the songs in the next few days, as I leave for IFFI Goa.
Incidentally, after hearing these snippety versions, I get the feeling Guzarish - melodious though it is — is also the most conventional one by the standard of this album! There’s a certain urgency about Aye Bachchu and even the others are nothing but run of the mill.
I’m not terribly blown away by anything on this album yet, including Guzarish. Again, far too early to really form a cohesive opinion (or any kind of an opinion at all) off of these slim tastings but for the most part the Ghajini tracks have a catchy sort of feel. This is totally fine and certainly not without merit, but it’s more a Vishal Shekhar kind of trait - where the music has a nice beat but doesn’t really linger too long. And I wouldn’t put that duo in the same stratosphere as Rahman at the end of the day.
Guzarish is the best out of the lot. From others, I feel Kaise Mujhe Tum Mil Gaye might be good. But the rest are pretty average. In fact Aye Bachu is sort of annoying.
I think Latoo Latoo sounds the best here - its got that zany Rahman feel to it and lots of energy. Not so sure about Bekha - I can’t imagine such a song picturised on Aamir.
The thing to remember is that this is a masala film and the soundtrack will be made to fit. It won’t be a grand Rahman effort in terms of innovation. One should judge it by masala standards. And I think this is something we often forget with Rahman. It is one thing to critique him based on a specific composition (so one could say that Guzarish is less than expected or better or whatever for a love song) and quite another to do so based on inexact comparisons (clearly he won’t be doing the same thing here as he did in JA!).
The other point I think still deserves to be made is that one might prefer as I do an earlier Tamil sound, heavy on percussion and so forth, when it comes to Rahman. But it doesn’t follow that he’s less of a composer when he does something very different. But if we define Rahman by certain phases of his we are likely to be disappointed. Because he doesn’t really repeat himself. Again a better example in this regard is JTYJN. A fun soundtrack that I quite love. It’s not major Rahman by any stretch but why would one expect major Rahman from this kind of film?!
So Ghajini won’t be the Yuvvraaj kind of deal with an overall musical thematic to it (recurring motifs and so forth). As Rahman said one would like it if one liked Beethoven. Don’t know if I’d go that far but there is a certain musical reference there.
With Ghajini you have a film with the usual potpourri of songs — romantic, item etc. So one can’t expect new ground to be covered here. But one can expect a fantastic soundtrack.
Now as to the argument of Rahman seeming ‘new’ no matter what he did in his first so many years. Well that’s because we were unused to that sound. But things get institutionalized beyond a point. No matter how different Rahman gets now he can hardly reproduce the shock of the ‘new’ from his initial phase. Also because this is ultimately film music. Even Rahman knows there are some limitations.
for example Sillunu Oru Kadhal was for me a perfect Rahman soundtrack. It wasn’t among the greats but it was very good and had a great deal of variety to it. But again it didn’t seem ‘new’ (barring perhaps NY Nagaram). had it released in ‘95 it would have felt so.
Now I do concede that there was perhaps more of a ‘contrapuntal’ element to Rahman’s music in the earlier years. Perhaps a greater sense of dissonance. One might prefer that. But this still does not imply ‘better’ for me in any absolute sense.
My last few examples here are firstly from MP where the vaari vaari song has been beautifully done combining the mujra number with the qawwali. I find the song rather dazzling. Then in Yuva (though I prefer the Tamil version) the Goodbye Nanba (Khuda Hafiz) song is rather bewitching. Finally the qawaali in Bose is Rahman’s first that is so apocalyptic. So there are moments that one can keep picking out. On Yuvvraaj I’d say the link here is with that RDB song, tu bin bataye.. I think Rahman is doing similar things in the entire Yuvvrraj album..
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Comment by sandy on 19 November 2008:
Thanks for this. I can’t still judge the two romantic tracks but Aye Bachcho just blew my mind. I easily visualise Jiah Khan in this very raunchy number. Also, the last one, Latoo Latoo seems to be a winner.
Don’t know if I can listen to the songs in the new few days, as I leave for IFFI Goa.
Comment by sandy on 19 November 2008:
Thanks for this. I can’t still judge the two romantic tracks but Aye Bachcho just blew my mind. Easy to visualise a very raunchy Jiah here. Also, the last one, Latoo Latoo seems to be a winner.
Don’t know if I can listen to the songs in the next few days, as I leave for IFFI Goa.
Comment by sandy on 19 November 2008:
Incidentally, after hearing these snippety versions, I get the feeling Guzarish - melodious though it is — is also the most conventional one by the standard of this album! There’s a certain urgency about Aye Bachchu and even the others are nothing but run of the mill.
Comment by Som on 19 November 2008:
Thanks! Guzarish is the one which seems to be the best of the lot.Don’t think with the exception of Guzarish,the rest is instantly likable.
Comment by goodfella on 19 November 2008:
I’m not terribly blown away by anything on this album yet, including Guzarish. Again, far too early to really form a cohesive opinion (or any kind of an opinion at all) off of these slim tastings but for the most part the Ghajini tracks have a catchy sort of feel. This is totally fine and certainly not without merit, but it’s more a Vishal Shekhar kind of trait - where the music has a nice beat but doesn’t really linger too long. And I wouldn’t put that duo in the same stratosphere as Rahman at the end of the day.
Comment by naima on 19 November 2008:
Guzarish is the best out of the lot. From others, I feel Kaise Mujhe Tum Mil Gaye might be good. But the rest are pretty average. In fact Aye Bachu is sort of annoying.
Comment by Tony Montana on 19 November 2008:
WTH are these really Rahmans songs? They sound like VS or Pritam songs.
Comment by inetk on 19 November 2008:
Aye bachu = Rahatulla, Latoo = X machi, Behka = Suttum vizhi, Guzarish = Oru maalai, Kaise mujhe /=/ Rangola?
Besides Guzarish, Behka sounds good. Latoo and Aye bachoo sound coarse. Kaise mujhe induces sleep. Waiting for the CD!
Comment by jayshah on 20 November 2008:
I think Latoo Latoo sounds the best here - its got that zany Rahman feel to it and lots of energy. Not so sure about Bekha - I can’t imagine such a song picturised on Aamir.
Comment by satyam on 20 November 2008:
The thing to remember is that this is a masala film and the soundtrack will be made to fit. It won’t be a grand Rahman effort in terms of innovation. One should judge it by masala standards. And I think this is something we often forget with Rahman. It is one thing to critique him based on a specific composition (so one could say that Guzarish is less than expected or better or whatever for a love song) and quite another to do so based on inexact comparisons (clearly he won’t be doing the same thing here as he did in JA!).
The other point I think still deserves to be made is that one might prefer as I do an earlier Tamil sound, heavy on percussion and so forth, when it comes to Rahman. But it doesn’t follow that he’s less of a composer when he does something very different. But if we define Rahman by certain phases of his we are likely to be disappointed. Because he doesn’t really repeat himself. Again a better example in this regard is JTYJN. A fun soundtrack that I quite love. It’s not major Rahman by any stretch but why would one expect major Rahman from this kind of film?!
So Ghajini won’t be the Yuvvraaj kind of deal with an overall musical thematic to it (recurring motifs and so forth). As Rahman said one would like it if one liked Beethoven. Don’t know if I’d go that far but there is a certain musical reference there.
With Ghajini you have a film with the usual potpourri of songs — romantic, item etc. So one can’t expect new ground to be covered here. But one can expect a fantastic soundtrack.
Now as to the argument of Rahman seeming ‘new’ no matter what he did in his first so many years. Well that’s because we were unused to that sound. But things get institutionalized beyond a point. No matter how different Rahman gets now he can hardly reproduce the shock of the ‘new’ from his initial phase. Also because this is ultimately film music. Even Rahman knows there are some limitations.
Comment by satyam on 20 November 2008:
for example Sillunu Oru Kadhal was for me a perfect Rahman soundtrack. It wasn’t among the greats but it was very good and had a great deal of variety to it. But again it didn’t seem ‘new’ (barring perhaps NY Nagaram). had it released in ‘95 it would have felt so.
Now I do concede that there was perhaps more of a ‘contrapuntal’ element to Rahman’s music in the earlier years. Perhaps a greater sense of dissonance. One might prefer that. But this still does not imply ‘better’ for me in any absolute sense.
My last few examples here are firstly from MP where the vaari vaari song has been beautifully done combining the mujra number with the qawwali. I find the song rather dazzling. Then in Yuva (though I prefer the Tamil version) the Goodbye Nanba (Khuda Hafiz) song is rather bewitching. Finally the qawaali in Bose is Rahman’s first that is so apocalyptic. So there are moments that one can keep picking out. On Yuvvraaj I’d say the link here is with that RDB song, tu bin bataye.. I think Rahman is doing similar things in the entire Yuvvrraj album..
Comment by jayshah on 20 November 2008:
“On Yuvvraaj I’d say the link here is with that RDB song, tu bin bataye..” - Yes definitely, good pick up, I thought the same too.