Taran’ verdicts inconsistent with Jayshah’s Totals

January 17th, 2008Related|Filed Under

Ok.. first of all, I’m sure it’s clear aboutw hat I think of Jayshah or his BO brains… and everytime I make a comment about them, I get in trouble. So, here I am not going to make any comment about jayshah himself.. but simply his BO posts. And I know Satyam has repeatedly asked that those who don’t agree with them simply ignore and skip them. Not so easy. I can say the same about any post here. The forum will be one dead ass place if the only posts under which you posted a comment were the ones you agreed with. And secondly, it’s not like my (or many others these days) difference with jayshah’s reports are based ons tupid assumption like… “why BOI had 69 cr for LRM and not 70?”.. or “why BOI didn’t mention KANK’s WOM on the 2nd day of release in their reports?”. Anyways… the latest is Taran’s classification of films of 2007.. and they simply don’t make it easier for jayshah. In fact, they are very much in line with THE OTHERS. … boi, tango, joginder etc.. And I had this initially posted as a comment in an old-n-forgotten thread some 25-30 pages back.. but decided to make a new thread since I missed that discussion weks ago.

So yeah.. here it is again… why is Taran calling OSO a mega-blockbuster? In the past we have been told that Komal is pro-SrK. Tango is obviously a fan. BOI is also very pro-srK.. and I guess joginder is too. All these sources are pro-SrK? but what about Taran now? how is it that Taran’s verdict is consistent with all those other guys out there. Taran doesnt even use Film Informarion. He uses (and actually provides teh figures for ) Trade Guide.. and some of teh numbers from rade Guide are posted o indiafm through which mr. Jayshah makes up his totals. Does Jayshah’s OSO total look anything like a “mega-blockbuster” or an “all-time-blockbuster”? I am not gonna spill the beans on jayshah’s agendas et al (that’s for you guys to decide yourself) but don’t you see how obvious it is?

And OSO is merely one example.. What about Guru? mr. Jayshah cooked up some numbers and made some wacky calculations to propose that what NL made in 10 weeks, Guru made in some-thing like 2-3 weeks or something of the sort.. And according to mr. Jayshah.. Guru has made significatly more than NL. .. then how is it that Taran has put NL in a bracket ABOVE Guru? … hey this is not a 2 cr films vs a 20 cr.. one.. the films are relatively of teh equal sizes. and most likely sold in the market at similar prices.. then where does the distortion come from? part of the agende? you decide….

Then there’s Apne and CK scenario.. and how jayshah and satyam rose over rooftops crying foul.. and how BOI was showing their “biased colours” towards the Deols… and being so anti-Bachchans. The whole world, trade and the rest of teh media, were talking about how good a business Apne was doing in E.Punjab.. but mr. jayshah failed to acknowledge it and keptt on comparing CK’s urban collections with that of Apne to prove that the former had done so much better. Ofcourse , it helped his case that Taran didn’t provide a single centre from E. Punjab in his weekly collections. Anyways.. now what? Apne is a Hit and TWO BRACKETS above Cheeni Kum.

And so on and so forth… on every single film that mr. Jayshah’s position differed from BOI, Taran has taken BOI’s side on it here. making it crystal clear what jayshah is all about.

Also.. I know that jayshah will come here and claim that the way he gives rating and verdicts differ from Taran and others.. but that’s not teh issue here. Here’s the case of comparing totals. For the kind of totals that Jayshah has made up for teh films mentioned above, Taran’s classification don’t fit. You cann’t declare a big film like OSO a mega-blockbuster if it only does a few cr more than 70. Similarly Namaste London cannot be considered a superhit if it only did the 30 cr business that jayshah claims it has done. Or for that matter jayshah’s Apne totals don’t dorrespond with Taran’s verdict for the film.

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Comment by satyam on 17 January 2008:

Street: I didn’t say you couldn’t disagree.. I just said you didn’t have to be unpleasant doing so!

As for the rest Jay uses Taran’s numbers, which numbers are hopefully factual ones (!), but this does not mean that he is dependent on Taran’s classifications. Hope you follow the perfectly simple logic here!

Do Taran’s ratings agree with Nahata’s? Don’t think so! Not sure about Joginder but Tango has always claimed that his ratings are what you get when you upgrade each of Nahata’s gradings a couple of notches! Now he of course insists that everything Nahata says is absolutely right. So not sure how he upgrades Nahata’s rankings!

But let me paraphrase Deewar here and say ‘pehle un logon se argue karo jo Nahata ko maante hain aur aap ke dost hain’! ‘Baad main Jay ki baat karna’.. as far as NG is concerned and the ’smart people’ here are concerned NG pe Jay hi ‘Vijay’ rahega!

Unless of course you or anyone else can do something other than simply bring your ‘passions’ to the table!
Comment by satyam on 17 January 2008:

This whole game is old hat and rather transparent.. when you cannot argue on the facts the first step is to first start slyly insinuating things, then questioning the honesty of the person concerned, then suggesting conspiracies (he’s with IBOS and so forth), the final stage is to indulge in plain hysteria and start trying to pull down people in the fashion of this post. The whole premise rests on a straw man claim! Jay has never accepted Taran’s verdicts, I think that was absolutely clear from the beginning, what’s new now?!

Anyway I’m not going to argue this further… but I couldn’t resist responding this much.

The more you guys try every single thing in the book except actually presenting a case, making an argument the more you are ironically helping Jay’s cause. LOL!
Comment by Tango on 17 January 2008:

Street checkout Komal’s ratings too and his clarification about Apne & Dhamaal.

http://www.naachgaana.com/2008/01/14/komal-ratifies-his-annual-ratings-for-apne-dhamaal/
Comment by Street Pharmacist on 17 January 2008:

satyam ciut that hogwash crap there. I haven’t made any claims about jayshah.. or why he is doin what he is doing or what his agenda is.. ro where he comes from. His totals don’t match teh source’s verdicts. Simply answer on those ground if you have anything. You are the one who is actually playing the old game here.

As for Jayshah not accepting Taran’s verdict.. I have already talked about. I don;’t care whether jayshah accepts Taran’s verdicts or not. That’s not the isue here. Jayshah accepts Taran’s collections. He uses those collections to come up with total for the films. Using the very same collections, Taran himself gets entirely different totals it seems.. since the verdicts for the vedricts for ths films dimplay don’t atch Jayshah’s numbers.Acting dumb don’t help here. It’s pretty clear what I am talking about.

Usng Taran’s collections, jayshah claims he gets 35cr for NL and 50 cr for Guru. However, according to Taran, NL is a higher grade hit than Guru is.. how is that possible? Unless Guru ’s totals have been inflated, say it’s actually a 40 cr grosser and not a 50 cr one, or NL’s total has been chopped, say it’s a 45 cr grosser and not a 35 cr one that jayshah claims, it won’t make sense. Or for that matter, the total that jayshah has formulated for OSO shouldn’t be declared a mega-blockbuster. Why he difference, why teh contradiction? isn’t Taran’c collection what jayshah relies on? then why is it that Taran himself gets totally different totals than jayshah gets?

As for Komal vs Taran verdicts.. once again don’t act dumb. Komal is a little more strict than Taran.. but at no point are they contradicting each other. Taran is simply being more lenient than Komal.. that’s it.
Comment by devesh on 17 January 2008:

the NL vs guru case is an interesting one.
Comment by satyam on 17 January 2008:

Street: Since you have been polite enough to say this:

“ciut that hogwash crap there”

I know you won’t mind when I extract this skeptic line from the SB:

“TheSkeptic: Very colorful character, Street. Clearly consumes a good portion of his own pharmaceuticals. Fortunately for me, his prose is so eye and brain-hurtingly poor that it renders all his posts below my reading threshold. This saves me all the grief that some of you are clearly experiencing.”
Comment by akshay shah on 17 January 2008:

“jayshah claims he gets 35cr for NL and 50 cr for Guru. However, according to Taran, NL is a higher grade hit than Guru is.. how is that possible? Unless Guru ’s totals have been inflated, say it’s actually a 40 cr grosser and not a 50 cr one, or “–I must say this doesn’t make any sense to me either…looking at it from a birds eye POV given my limited knowledge…
Comment by Tango on 17 January 2008:

Akshay by me Guru is a superhit at 42 cr and NL a hit plus with 37-38 cr.
Comment by Street Pharmacist on 18 January 2008:

satyam.. atleast I won’t be the first person to say that you and skeptic are the same person.. telle m if I am wrong.

akshay.. make it easy on yourself.. just say “geat work as always Jayshah”.
Comment by rks on 18 January 2008:

TheSkeptic in chatbox and Satyam are two different persons.
Comment by jayshah on 18 January 2008:

So glad I was away yesterday to miss this post. This is all hogwash. Of course my classifications will differ..I’m not using the same ways to classify films as others are ! It doesn’t take Einstein to figure that out !

On NL and Guru…someone else also has a higher classification for Guru than NL !!! LOL !!!
Comment by satyam on 18 January 2008:

Wish I were theskeptic Street! Alas, no such luck..
Comment by devesh on 18 January 2008:

LOL street this ones the most sarcastic:

“akshay.. make it easy on yourself.. just say “geat work as always Jayshah”.”
Comment by Street Pharmacist on 19 January 2008:

“I’m not using the same ways to classify films as others are”

lol.. DIdn’t I mention that in the original post myself. It’s not your classification vs Tarans.. coz you go by trending if I am not mistaken and Taran goes by ROI (return on Investment).
But no matter what kind of criteria and classification style youu guys use, the Totals should be consistent if you guys are both using the same source, the same basic set of collections for the centres reported. Ofcourse Taran has a few more centres at his disposal than you do, but you have consistently claimed that that shouldn’t make that big a difference coz a substantial portion of the collectins (anything from 50-80% of total collections depending on the film) is reported there on IFM.

Now, here’s the problem. Whatever totals that you deduce from those centres reported on IFM for ,say OSO, CDI, NL or Apne, don’t correspond with the verdicts that Taran has for those films. Ofcourse Taran needs to have a total before he makes those classifications. Now you have like what… 75 cr or something thereabout for OSO …and I know you classification will be entirely different here.. but that is your total right. Using Taran’s classification method, the film’s ought to have collected a lot more than that to be declared a MEGA BLOCKBUSTER. coz no matter how you look at it.. a film that makes slightly more than a LRM (by your totals) cann’t be considered a mega blockbuster.. or can it.. and it’s pretty damn obvious that an OSO was sold for a much higher price than a LRM ever was.
..and that’s just OSO.. majority of the “iffy” movies - those that happened to have your favourite stars or those that featured a star you are not in particularly fond have, have classifications from Taran that don’t match your totals.

to make matters worse for you, on almost every single movie, Taran is in line with the rest of the sources - BOI, Tango, Joginder etc etc.. And those “other guys” actually take thier info from Film Information and not Trade Guide… how interesting.

You so obviously stand as a sore thumb now.. coz it seems liek you are making your totals out of thin air now, like IBOS. In the past it was argues repeatedly, that your totals shouldn’t match BOI, Tango, Joginder etc coz they use Film Info and you use Trade Guide (IFM).. but here’s a case, where your totals are not even consistent with your source. What could you possibly have to say about that. And even you satyam.. for once stop attacking me personally.. but answer the questions I raised or provide an explanation for the obvious falacies here on Jay’s part.
Comment by jayshah on 20 January 2008:

‘Using Taran’s classification method, the film’s ought to have collected a lot more than that to be declared a MEGA BLOCKBUSTER.’

Dude the reason why I don’t have OSO a blockbuster is not this insinuation. Your taking your drama to a new level.

1. CDI is a Blockbuster
2. OSO for me is one step below it

For me despite OSO grossing an incredible amount CDI is deserving a better rating. Factor in longetivity, trending, sheer love for the movie it deserves it. Also this is where TZP is headed.

OSO, Partner, Welcome fall short IMO (using other criteria like others do it might not). They are all great ’star’ achievements but strictly from an acceptance standpoint they are not in CDI or TZP’s league.

Guru is one step below OSO, Partner, Welcome. Its trended ‘overall’ the same as OSO/Partner/Welcome. These 3 movies made roughly 40-45% of their total gross in week one. Guru is at roughly 42%. But the grosses of this movie is much bigger and warrant a bigger classifaction.

NL trended like Guru but made less. So its only a HIT for me.

Apne too trended well but made even less, hence is abover average or semi hit. In fact the movie should have made a lot more even if you use other sites. It underachieved IMO but because it did show resistance it got a positive rating.

If my classifications are out of line with Taran’s then I don’t care. I’ve never felt they ‘had’ to be in line.

Ultimately a film like CDI deserves a higher ranking than OSO. Afterall I am attempting to make a judgement on the audience here, not a business/profit/distributer grade…and I find it a quite ludicrous scenario if OSO gets a higher grade than CDI.
Comment by jayshah on 20 January 2008:

‘Week 1
Reported Collections: 5,60,92,890
Prints: 192
Average per Print: 2,92,150′

And on Apne…you keep saying I have undereported. You show me the numbers your talking about to get Apne from reported total of 5.6Cr in Film Info to 13Cr+. Thats nearly 8Cr found from where ? I guess in that 5.6Cr is a few of these East Punjab territories, Mumbai, Delhi and all other major centres! Where has 8Cr more come from ? Show me that numbers and I will gladly change make the adjustment. Not some hogwash article saying its broken 50 centre records on BOI! If BOI know this, where are the record breaking centres? Were they in Film Info? If they were then how we are still at only 5.6Cr…LOL!
Comment by Street Pharmacist on 20 January 2008:

jayshah.. either u are acting dumb.. or just trying to totally put aside the question here.

I never said what your classifications were , what your verdict for those films were, what tag (hit,flop) you assigned to what movie.. I don’t care about trending. It’s not them verdicts I am concerned about , it’s the totals you have.. It’s not your verdict for OSO that is bothersome, it’s your total. The total that you have (73-77cr) is too low. Taran obviously has had a much bigger total than that to declare the film a mega-blockbuster.(by his ROI criteria). Just as BOI are calling it an All-time blockbuster coz they also happen to have calculated an 85 cr total.

Do you think that Taran would call OSO a mega-blockbuster if he only got 73cr for the film.. or fuk Taran… would any trade analyst declare the film a mega-blockbuster at that amount? And we are talking of a big film like OSO here, not some tiny Shahid Kapoor starrer. Damn.. LRM made 70 cr last year and nobody called that film an all-time blockbuster… and this is year an a half later… with a much bigger film.

and yes, I am talking of the general parameters of ROI here, not yours. You can call any movie anything..who gives a fuk. Use trending, use personal likeness or hatred for the movie.. fuk for most people out there a hit movie is one that they liked and their friends liked it as well and a flop is one that they simply didn’t like. I don’t care what your classification theory is (which changes with every film, just like caluclation of totals methodology). I am talking about your totals.. and your totals don’t correspond with Taran’s. Simple as that. In fact Taran’s classification match BOI, Tango and Joginder on almost every film mentioned.

Why is it that that your totals for SrK films are lower, and for Aamir,Bachchan starrers are higher, than Taran’s.. even thogh you use Taran’s collection figures to deduce those totals?
Is that too hard a question to understand? I dont think so. Is that a question you want to answer.. ? Ofcourse not..w ell atleast it seems like it.

As for Apne.. the reported total there doesn’t feature a single centre from E.Punjab. That 5.6 cr of reported total alone should give anything bteween 8-10 cr and perhaps more coz teh film did a lot better in the smaller centres than it did in teh multiplexes of big centres. and you know very well that your methodlogy favours the films that does majority of its business in big centres. And that doesn’t include E.Punjab where the film broke all records as reported by one and all.. not just one or two trade guys.. but trhoughout the trade and the rest of the media they all reported of breaking of records. Anyways… it’s only 3-5 cr to cover, not 8 cr. And there’s no Goddamn reason why one cann’t expect a 3-5 cr return from a film in a territorrry if all reports indicate smashing bsuiness there.

lol.. 8 cr.. honey.. you got 6 from reported centres alone. and that’s rest of India.. not inclduing E.Punjab. Then there’s the unreported centres in those territories. WHich shoudl add atleast 3-4 cr to the 6 cr of reported centres. And then there’s E.Punjab.. where once again.. collecting 3-5 cr is not too muh to ask if everyone and their uncles and aunties are reporting record-breaking business.
Comment by jayshah on 20 January 2008:

At 80Cr I’d call D2 a blockbuster last year. At a ’supposed’ lower total I’d call CDI a blockbuster. Whats your point? That I haven’t called OSO a blockbuster?

‘Taran obviously has had a much bigger total than that to declare the film a mega-blockbuster.(by his ROI criteria).’

Go and compare Taran and BOI on each film and let me know if they are the same. Compare it with Komal too. Guarantee they are all incoherent as each other.
Comment by jayshah on 20 January 2008:

‘collecting 3-5 cr is not too muh to ask if everyone and their uncles and aunties are reporting record-breaking business.’

Honey…lol…show me the numbers. All this guess work is not for me. If you got the math and proof show it. Or ask someone else too.
Comment by akshay shah on 20 January 2008:

“akshay.. make it easy on yourself.. just say “geat work as always Jayshah”.”—Oh it is great work by Jay as always..because he bothers explaining HOW he comes to his figures..SIMPLE as pie:)!
Comment by jayshah on 21 January 2008:

Street your again completely wrong on Apne. Here is the cake for you, and hope you eat it this time.

‘And then there’s E.Punjab.. where once again.. collecting 3-5 cr is not too muh to ask if everyone and their uncles and aunties are reporting record-breaking business.’

BOI itself has only 2CR coming from East Punjab.

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=227&catName=MjAwNw==

So your 3-5Cr is way of the mark and I’ve used your beloved source to prove you bang out wrong.

‘the reported total there doesn’t feature a single centre from E.Punjab’

More lies. Faridabad, Gurgaon are in my total. Now lets see.

Apne
Gurgaon = 18L
Faridabad = 9L

For JBJ
Gurgaon = 37L
Faridabad = 19L

Heck lets take a low total film like Dhol
Gurgaon = 19L
Faridabad = 11L

Lets really annoy you now..CHEENI KUM
Gurgaon = 23L
Faridabad = 8L

Your ‘Apne’ didn’t make more than 2Cr from E. Punjab and your predicting 3-5Cr. On top of that your suggesting its done record breaking business there and CK/Dhol have beaten it in two centres.

To really end this one here is the deal.

And the rest of India? Well its Delhi number was barely over 1Cr for gods sake ! The same as Dhol !

The question simply is - where is the 13Cr coming from? If your estimate of 3-5Cr is wrong, your already down to a total of 10-12Cr. Judging by your extrapolation here, the rest of the unreported centres won’t be 4-5Cr. More like 2-3Cr. Then your down to 8-9Cr. Surprise surprise, you can eat your cake now !

I had 4.5Cr of reported centres. Film Info had 5.4Cr. They’ve found an extra 8Cr, me 4Cr. Quite easily this could be 1.5Cr from East Punjab and 2.5Cr from rest of India. Not your ficticious totals which are proved WRONG by your beloved site BOI!

Now leave me alone !
Comment by jayshah on 21 January 2008:

3-5Cr LOL. OSO, a record breaker allover India, according to beloved site BOI has made just about over 3Cr from E. Punjab and here Street adds 2Cr more for Apne !

Then we have one article (on BOI) that said Apne did recording breaking business in E. Punjab (the irony of that is astrocious). Last year D2, KANK did more business and Fanaa/Krrish were close to, all off less prints…and all of this is on BOI…the irony is so laughable !

I also a did a comparison with Gadar numbers from a full 6 years back and even Gadar was beating Apne in some centres.

Street what is your fixation with Apne? If you want to show me how you think Apne got to 13Cr I’m all ears. I’d love to see you ‘attempt’ this analysis off only 5.4Cr Film Info numbers. Those numbers too will have probably every major big city total and then you’ll be left with small centres to eek out some 8Cr !
Comment by jayshah on 21 January 2008:

First - my deepest apologies to the forum for this long post and a further apology to even bother ! But have not appreciated this initial post int he first place since it is only attempting to create controversy.

‘I am talking about your totals.. and your totals don’t correspond with Taran’s. Simple as that. In fact Taran’s classification match BOI, Tango and Joginder on almost every film mentioned. ‘

Now this one. This one had me off my chair nearly.

10 films - OSO, CDI, Partner, Apne, Guru, NL, Dhamaal, Bhool Bhulaiyaa, Cheeni Kum & Welcome.

4 Sources - BOI, Taran, Komal and myself (if you may let me count myself as a source)

OSO
Taran - Mega Blockbuster
Komal - SuperHit
BOI - Blockbuster
Myself - SuperDuperHit

CDI
Taran - Blockbuster
Komal - SuperHit
BOI - Blockbuster
Myself - Blockbuster

Partner
Taran - Blockbuster
Komal - Hit
BOI - Blockbuster
Myself - SuperDuperHit

Welcome
Taran - Blockbuster
Komal - Hit
BOI - Blockbuster
Myself - SuperDuperHit

BB
Taran - SuperHit
Komal - SemiHit
BOI - SuperHit
Myself - Hit

Guru
Taran - Hit
Komal - Overflow
BOI - Hit
Myself - SuperHit

Dhamaal
Taran - Above Average
Komal - No grade
BOI - SemiHit
Myself - SemiHit

NL
Taran - SuperHit
Komal - Commission Earner
BOI - Hit
Myself - Hit

CK
Taran - Multiplex success
Komal - Commission Earner
BOI - Above average
Myself - Hit (medium budget film)

Apne
Taran - Hit
Komal - No grade
BOI - Semi Hit
Myself - Above average

Now you tell me where is the coherence here. Komal always has the lowest grades so lets ignore him. Mine and Taran’s are not too far off. I am one grade lower on OSO, Welcome & Partner and same on CDI. In my defence I have placed CDI higher because of its tremendous trending.

Same note my Dhamaal and Guru grades are one higher than Taran, mainly because how well both movies trended. He is higher on NL and Apne by me by one grade. Both these films opened below the mark for me, but trended well.

Now compare Taran with BOI. They agree on all films except Taran is higher than BOI on OSO, NL and Apne. Whereas BOI is higher than Taran on Dhamaal.

What about Komal and Taran ? Taran is either 2-4 grades higher each time !!! Where is the same coherent consistency ? Surely they should at least always be only 2 grades higher?

Also Komal with BOI LOL. Here I’ve been lead to believe Komal is always 2 grades higher. Look at Guru. Overflow vs Hit. NL Commission earner vs HIT.

Can you not see there is incoherent grades ‘whenever’ you compare any two sources?

And I will always say this…you only need to follow the ‘analysis’ I do to see how and why I give such grades. I feel I spend the time to justify it. No one would argue on the street that CDI > OSO. Or even Guru > NL, look at how popular Guru is at one awards ceremony, it was 3rd highest earner of noms !

And having Partner/Welcome/OSO all the same…well look at the number pattern. All opened big, each fell in 3rd week. Only difference was OSO > Welcome > Partner in nett gross. But OSO too is a bigger film, its expected to do that more business. So relatively they are all as good as each other. But none of them deserve higher classification IMO then CDI, since it tripled its initial week 1. The others made overall just twice over there week 1. Guru made 2.5 times. TZP has already tripled its week 1. Things like this is what I look at.
Comment by satyam on 21 January 2008:

Jay: These are just flame throwing attempts in rather obvious ways. I think you have enough of a following on this forum and this is precisely what’s frustrating some.
Comment by jayshah on 21 January 2008:

Yes Satyam and I’ve fallen for it !
Comment by Sid on 21 January 2008:

Good write up Jay.
Comment by jayshah on 21 January 2008:

Thanks Sid, your lying low these days…how come only sperodic comments on NG?
Comment by ILG on 21 January 2008:

Flame thrower is a kind word.Troll is more fitting.Anyway,you cannot win this argument Jay as there isnt one.You cannot argue against fiction and a mindset.
Comment by ILG on 21 January 2008:

SP often (okay,occasionally)makes valid and interesting contributions.Jay’s BO column is where he just doesnt seem to be willing to engage in a useful fashion.
Comment by akshay shah on 21 January 2008:

That’s one helluva post there Jay….very well explained!!!!
Comment by Sid on 21 January 2008:

“Thanks Sid, your lying low these days…how come only sperodic comments on NG?” …. Work is tooo busy at the moment yaar. But keep a tab on all the conversations that go on here.

Rarely miss a day of checking out what happens here.
Comment by Street Pharmacist on 26 January 2008:

jay “LOL. OSO, a record breaker allover India, according to beloved site BOI has made just about over 3Cr from E. Punjab”

lol// OSO the record breaker alll over India only has about 73 cr collected accordin to mr. jayshah..

secondly.. it’s not only BOI but ther ‘ve been TONNES OF sources reporting record-breaking business for Apne in E.Punjab.. If record breakin business according to you is only 2 cr in that terrirtory .. then God help u (n Akshay shah..)

As for Faridabad.. and Gurgaon.. you [probably have never been to North India.. These are more like Satellite towns to Delhi than core Punjab no matter how you look at them.

And finally for teh millionth time.. it’s not your classifications vs teh rest of the sources but your fukin totals vs teh rest ofthose guys. Them other guys cassify movies’ verdicts based on teh films totalas.. but your fukin classifications are based on trending.. I’d be really stupid to compare your classifications with them (I hope this time I m clear enough).

Your 73 cr OSO total.. is not enough for Taran to declrae the movie a mega blockbuster, or for BOI to delcare it a an-alltime blocbuster, or for Joginder and Tango to do the same. Even by Komal standards that’s too low a fukin total for him to lend a superhit tag.

Your Guru total is too high for Taran to call it only a hit

Your NL total is too high for it to be classifed a a superhit (as per Taran) or a hit as per BOI, Tango, Joginderb n the rest

Your Apne total is ridiculously low for any of those sources’ classification.

Your CK total is too high to get the type of classification it’s received from Taran and others.

btw.. imma do some weekly comparsion of OSO’s latter weeks’ totals vs some other movies that u been givin’ higher totals to bust your case further (as soon as I get some more time)

as for Akshay.. seriously man.. get a life.
Comment by jayshah on 26 January 2008:

Street you’ve either lost the plot or can’t read. I’ll leave that to you.

1) BOI - BOXOFFICEINDIA - the source you love…says APNE MADE 2CR IN WEEK 1. So yes what is your answer to that ? Go and look it up yourself
2) Once again BOI - BOXOFFICEINDIA - the source you love…says Faridabad & Gurgaon are in E. Punjab.

For 1) Go to http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=227&catName=MjAwNw==
For 2) Go to http://www.naachgaana.com/2007/08/22/chakde-india-collections-from-across-india/

The rest of your post has no value till you understand these two points. You have lost the plot because now you disregard BOI too LOL !

Once again…PLAIN ENGLISH

BOI has 2Cr for Apne from E. Punjab
BOI has Faridabad and Gurgaon in E. Punjab

I hope this time you will understand. None of your points make sense btw. You say my totals are wrong, yet classifications are incoherent all over the place. If trade was correct, they’ll all have same classifications. Obviously everyone sets slightly different parameters to judge. The main reason for difference. It is not lower or higher totals, it is simply different method to judge success. Anyone can understand this barring a few who get their jollies out of nonsense.

ps. Have you gone against BOI to get at me? Wow, this is a desperate low. And leave Akshay out of it. He is probably only responding to your nonsense in the same vein I am. Otherwise I am sure we’d both care not to respond to you at all.
Comment by satyam on 26 January 2008:

Street: Again, please try and keep things civil here. It’s been very good here for sometime with a general level of civility all round. The only time it’s been different is when you show up every Sat to take swipes at Jay. Give it up! Write your own pieces as much as you want. But what you’ve been doing are attacks disguised as ‘responses’. Let’s maintain some quality standards here. I’ve been saying this for some time. What you’re doing is rather predictable and stale. I’m sure you can do better.