Abhishek and rohan to rock again
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source:timesofindia
Rohan Sippy and Abhishek Bachchan are all set to work together once again.
Rohan’s next film will go on the floors late next year. Rohan and Abhishek, who happen to be close friends, have earlier worked together in Kuch Na Kaho and Bluff Master .
Rohan says, “Yes we have worked out the details and we will be working in another film by the end of next year. However, it is too early to say anything as we need to sort out the final details.” The leading lady is not yet finalised and Rohan will work on the other details next year.
Incidentally, Abhishek’s wife Aishwarya Bachchan will be seen with John Abraham in another Rohan Sippy film, which is being directed by Sriram Raghavan.
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Thanks..
This was always going to happen. It was just a matter of time. I must say though that it’s frustrating to see a talented director like Rohan take such a long break!
Thanks chotey bhai, but this one has been on for a while now. When I had talked to Sridhar Raghavan he too had confirmed it.
**Sorry when I had talked to Sriram Raghavan**
Just in case..
Is Aishwarya still doing the Raghavan movie? Anyone have any info? She doesn’t seem to be confirming any of her projects after JA.
No Fari , as of last Wednesday it was still not confirmed ( the John project) but I’ll talk to Sriram ji again next week and get you the latest.
Thanks Tango. I don’t know what the hold up is on Ash’s end. It supposed to begin filming in December. Very strange.
Check this out BTW
http://www.planetbollywood.com.....2007095950
Hmmm…but why would she not commit to anything when the tour doesn’t begin till the summer time. I’m more inclined to believe it’s for the other reason mentioned.
I don’t know Fari. I have heard of no good news, if you mean that
Abhishek is most comfortable doing Rohan’s films. I rank Bluffmaster as Abhishek’s most fluid performance – one of his best. Rohan ‘gets’ most of Abhishek’s expressions right, here.
However, Rohan has to work on his story telling. He loses his grip quite often.
He’s innovative, though. I liked his title sequence in Kuch na Kaho.
Kuch na Kaho was one of the worst big budget disasters. Music and Aishwarya’s looks were the only good things about it.
Bluff Master would have been lost grip as well if not for Nana Patekar’s damage control.
How did Rohan Sippy become a talented director suddenly???
Rohan is a considerable talent to be reckoned with. I liked Bluff Master.
Frustrating that Rohan has taken a break???
Frustrating because …
a) Cause Shaad Ali whose Bunty did wonders for Abhishek has failed to recreate the same in JBJ
b) Sanjay Ghadvi who did stuck on to Abhishek in Dhoom series(which seemed to work), was more impressed with Hrithik in Dhoom 2. Heard he is already out of favout with YRF and is not gonna direct Dhoom 3!
So Rohan and Goldie Bhel remain the childhood friends still loyal to Abhishek. Now, Rohan can’t take a break!!! Cause its frustrating to some people here ….
Closely reminiscent of OSO and Om Kapoor’s childhood friend who offers to act in the film inside film.
I didn’t like Kuch Na Kaho but Bluffmaster was quite a cool film. Nithi is your weak spot Abhishek ?
jayshah,
Even KNK began like a cool film. Though it became unbearable later. Bluff Master did work at parts.
weak spot??? Let me explain …
I think Rohan is the creator of the cool look on Abhishek. This combo has the maximum chances of catering to the hip-hop image of Abhishek which has been his only USP as a Star.
Guess thats why Satyam is frustrated! Isn’t this fanatism at its best?
Oh thank God someone brought this up
Seriosuly!..Rohan Sippy..talented director? He might well be, but this doesn’t ring quite true considering his efforts till now. Not even close!
Rohan and talented director???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
‘Even KNK began like a cool film. Though it became unbearable later. Bluff Master did work at parts.’
Yep pretty much agree with that, though BM was much better.
n just to refresh a few memories – Bluffmaster was a dud … a Flop in all circuits in India except mumbai (coincidentally thats the strongest territory for NANA!)
For me, Phir Milenge is Abhishek’s most fluid performance to date. Yuva of course, made the most impact.
Goldie Behl is going to stop making movies after all the rona-dhona that Drowna is going to cause!
I don’t even remember much of Bluff Master to comment on. Wonder why it’s liked so much here.
Achilles–how goes brother
Long time no see
Sunny,
Rohan is one of those Hollywood inspired cool directors. In his films, actors would follows a very western definition of style, which includes blank expression and sauve pauses while delivering dialogues. There are some takers for it who find it cool and Abhishek very masculine.
Personally I found it unbearable. The way Priyanka and Abhishek engage in some soft talk as though they are Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant (without the merits of these actors).
There are people who like that style of acting. My old roommates thought it was cool.
Its too deadpan for my taste. Me and my friend Deepa walked out of the theatre during the intermission of Bluff Master. I blamed it on an unbearable headache and Deepa made some up a random reason that she forgot to switch off the heater to walk out.
Later, my other friends told us that there was twist in the tale blah, blah … I watched it on TV.
The point is some people whose tastes are light years ahead and behind mine who like that! So they think Rohan is talented!
Drona might very well score at the BO. Children play a very important role these days; if it’s marketed properly and the promos pack some action and effects’ punch then most people will be dragged to the cinema by their children. It has to be terrible! to really tank in terms of BO.
Nithya– All those sequences just came screaming! back at me
, not fully though. Such a mediocre film that was, really…but to each his own anyway. I quite enjoyed the ‘ek main aur ek tu hai’ song though.
hello sunny bhai … yeah i hvnt been arnd … but lemme give u a tip – dont put ur money on Drowna … abhishek has a nice record od delivering a big dud every year … after UJ n JBJ the next looks set to be Drowna!
nithi – good logical take on bluffmaster … cudnt agree more with u.
Ach–LOL
I’ll keep that in mind.
Yes. Bluffmaster was quite a mediocre film.
For people who have similar taste like mine, Nana and Ritesh saved the movie from getting completely lost like the way ‘Kuch Na Kaho’ did.
But I do know of a friends (a couple) who watched it only for Abhishek! A couple of girls, who thought Abhishek has a certain manly style, while I couldn’t tolerate the immense boredom between the deliberate long pauses and close ups that focussed on his beard.
I watched ‘Bas Itna Kwaab Hai’ directed by Goldie. It was a rip off of ‘Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman’. RGBG can be called a classic compared to the pure dud. There was one good song with Rani. Rest wasn’t worth remembering.
Wonder who is expected Drona outside NG! May be, those old roommates of mine …
I’ve seen Bluffmaster only seen in bits and parts. My logic is that if I had liked it enough, I would have taken the effort to sit through it any time it plays on TV. But I haven’t.
Nithya–yeah, at that point of time, Abhishek was the in thing among the young girls. The Motorola ads, the cool hip guy thing etc etc.But that segment is probably the most disloyal of all(no offence meant, just an observation), I’m sure most of them left him for Hritik post D2, and the remaining have thronged to Ranbir now. He can’t hold a candle to Hritik in the looks and charisma sweepstakes, and he’s nowhere in the vicinity of an SRK/Aamir in terms of popularity or Akshay in terms of mass appeal, or the inexplicable superstardom of Salman. What he needs to do is shed his inhibitions, get over those subdued mannerisms, low key delivery and strive to ‘please’ the audience for once(he hasn’t done this post Yuva). If he doesn’t, he’ll always be the ‘rising’ star.
Sunny,
Thats exactly my take on Abhishek. IBOS says Abhishek can’t do masala flicks because he is known for acting type of roles. Untrue! He tried acting only after every attempt to launch him as a hero failed.
Bluffmaster was one of his major success as a Star. (He had one cool song and tat motorola ad …)
I personally didn’t find Yuva great either. Liked Madhavan’s portrayal more. I liked him that confrontation scene in KANK. He was good in Guru. Thats about it.
Certainly, something must be done to save him. The Last good man type of special appearances in hum tum, LCMD and even KANK are getting boring …
Rohan and Abhishek can form a combo that works fine with some people. Guess only Rohan/Abhishek has chances of working ….
I felt KNK began great and was a good film in general. The only parts I disliked was the drawn stuff with the returned husband. But I liked the film.
I felt that Bluffmaster was an enjoyable film. Abhishek was very good in the film. And I thought Rohan did a good job. Hopefully Rohan’s new film with Abhishek will have a tight script and topnotch direction along with great music. Rohan improved upon KNK with Bluffmaster. So hopefully he will improve upon Bluffmaster with his new film as well. I look forward to Abhishek and Rohan working together again.
Abhisheks position is dicey. Sarkar raj is all the more important, if it fails, Drona will find it tough to stay a float (pun intended). In that sense Sarkar Rajj has to really work, and it’s the kind of setting and role that suits Abhishek’s persona.
Jayshah,
Sarkar Raj, I don’t think is going to help launch Abhishek in the vicinity of the current lot of Super stars. It might suit his personality, no doubt.
Abhishek lacks charisma in the obvious sense of the word. He needs work on his weaknesses or concentrate on strengths which is to deliver strong performances on every movie to really become a major player. Soulless attempts won’t do.
Did not care much about KNK but BM like Eire said is an enjoyable movie and I think Rohan is one of the new age directors that Indian movies need. Atleast most of the people that I know liked the movie and thought it was different, did not find a single person that I know telling me that they did not like this movie, though my sampling might be very different compared to the general public
‘Sarkar Raj, I don’t think is going to help launch Abhishek in the vicinity of the current lot of Super stars.’
I don’t think that’s what I meant. I think he needs a buffer film, a safe one at that, to compensate for JBJ. Sarkar Raj IMO should be a fairly safe film considering the first was a success and a sequel should work. It wouldn’t put him into the top elite, but a failure would simply be a massive blow.
Agree with you Jay, unless Abhi gets a hit similar to what Akshay has been getting this year, he should not even be talked in the same sentence as the other top stars.
And like you said, he needs a buffer before Drona to recover from the JBJ debacle and Sarkar Raj looks like a safe film and hope Ramu has got his act together for this otherwise he is a goner too.
But, if Sarkar Raj flops then Abhi’s position becomes very questionable and Drona would become lot more riskier.
Ravi,
Strange that the thing that you say as taking Indian movies ahead is out of flavour in Hollywood already. Though there are a few like Ocean’s series are still being made …
They are now concentrating on under dog roles, oddball characters and common man heroes. Thats why the latest James Bond got badly beaten up.
IMO it works only among a few who like that un-Indian way of expressing.
Nithya, I am not talking about taking Indian movies forward. All I am saying is I like anyone who is willing to make different movies and not stick with the same old formulae.
Rohan Sippy’s BM is easily one of the most technically accomplished products to come out of Bombay in recent years. But it takes a discerning eye to figure this out!
Jay: I think Sarkar Raj and Drona are both essential for Abhishek.
>>Rohan Sippy’s BM is easily one of the most technically accomplished products to come out of Bombay in recent years. But it takes a discerning eye to figure this out!
Jay, i wasnt even close. this is the funniest comment of the day. But it takes a discerning eye to figure this out
btw – i think BM is a fun movie, its not that bad nor is it the best..lol
>>Jay: I think Sarkar Raj and Drona are both essential for Abhishek
i think pretty much every movie from now is essential for Abhishake
Bluffmaster rocked. And, it gets better with every viewing. Bluffmaster and Johnny Gaddar belong to the rare group of films which got the homage part right. Himman Dhamija’s work in Bluffmaster is one of my all time favorite DOP outings.
Abhishek cannot afford another high profile failure after JBJ but unfortunately for some it’s hardly been the end of the world for him! There is still a gap between his celebrity and his box office in some sense and that needs to close. Also he needs to keep the momentum going. So for example after Guru he had JBJ. This can’t keep happening which is again why both releases next year are important. But that he is is an elite bracket of stars in India is not even contestable, by any reasonable metric, cultural or otherwise! But yes Aamir, SRK, Hrithik and now Akhshay are above him in terms of the box office. But precisely because he is part of this bracket and the expectation game is greater with him than it would be were he just any star, precisely because of this his future releases are important. Specially a Drona where he has staked so much. And of course I don’t say these things without thinking, or as a gesture of partisanship (!). People living in India ought to know better the truth of what I am saying. That they claim otherwise is pure partisanship!
Aarohi: BM was a truly remarkable film in many ways. Of course one is free not to like it but the technical work here is undeniable.
An older comment on BM:
“Rks: I think BM is really Rohan’s ‘Tale of Cinema’. And hence goes beyond the actual plot. Or rather it is a double narrative with the actual plot mirroring the larger illusion of cinema.
In this context let me reveal yet again my favorite moment from the film. Probably one of the best transitions I’ve seen in recent years. Abhishek is with priyanka in bed, says aloud that it seems like a dream, priyanka responds with a ‘it is a dream’. Abhishek turns around and there’s no one next to him. This itself is sharply done but at that very moment a bus goes across the screen functioning as a perfect wipe and when the bus passes away the scene opens onto a nice shot of Bombay with Abhishek getting out of the car and so on. What is really fine about this beyond what I have just described is that the wipe is obviously considered a bit archaic at this late date. So any director who indulges in it today would be calling attention to it in a very conspicuous way. Rohan therefore effects a wipe without actually doing so! It’s a marvelous moment!
Elsewhere the restaurant scene with the translucent glass (really transparent but we can see the crowd at the other end blocking in a way transparency from the inside. Or rather it isn’t just the crowd but the way Rohan lights up the scene (incidentally this is far more evident on the DVD than it was in the theater where the scene was actually a little problematic presumably because of the poor projection system in the one I went to). As opposed to being on the inside looking out which is the way this kind of scene would normally play we are also on the outside looking in. This happens when Abhishek starts describing some of the characters outside. Again a perfect visual illustration of what the film is about. We are constantly on the inside as viewers but the perspective shifts suddenly at the end of the film.
Don followed somewhat in this wake but there it was really a partial plot inversion (and a rather silly one as I’ve elsewhere indicated).”
lol amarsinghji. would it be possible for you to debate on anything without bringing Don or KANK into it
>>But precisely because he is part of this bracket
lol again, but hey its not a sin to dream. so dream on…
Bluffmaster also had one of the few decent female lead roles in Hindi mainstream films. Priyanka was remarkably effective here. For me the only sore point in the film was Ritesh. He wasn’t bad but he didn’t get the wavelength of the film.
Amusing remarks:
“Bluff Master would have been lost grip as well if not for Nana Patekar’s damage control.”
“I personally didn’t find Yuva great either. Liked Madhavan’s portrayal more.”
- Subjective opinion. Quite a subjective one!
“…Thats why the latest James Bond got badly beaten up.”
- Casino Royale (Daniel Craig) ranks in top 250 movies at IMDB and amongst the highest grossing Bond movies worldwide.
Still smiling!
Again on the ad front the Idea Cellular campaign is perhaps the one most dominating the landscape currently.
Just in Hyderabad Qalandar said that Abhishek’s ad between this and Flying Machine vastly outnumbered any Hrithik ads. In Varangal he only saw one Telugu a featuring a Bombay star, again it was Idea.
Leaving all of this aside (any number of people in India will tell you about Abhishek’s ‘presence’ there) the very fact that he constantly has to be ‘denied’ in some sense or any entirely different standard used for him versus the other stars says it all!
I am closest to Jay on all of this. As I see it though significant success in Sarkar and Drona gives him the one two punch he’s not had since ‘05 and makes it a top 4 or top 5, as the case might be at that point and of course one will be able to place him at a certain position within that bracket accordingly.
But in terms of a major role Abhishek has had only one failure since ‘05 and that’s JBJ. At the most UJ if one wants to include a role of substantial length. Having said that I will also be fair and say that all those guest appearances haven’t helped him beyond a point. The ones in LRM or OSO were fine, something like LCMD might also be justified but not the rest.
And as I also said before given that he is more visible in the media than any of those other stars he should also be alert to the dangers of celebrity. In other words the gap between celebrity and the box office shouldn’t be a wide one. Of course for the box office to match his media presence he’d have to be what his father was at his peak!
Satyam–seriously brother
, here we were discussing what Abhishek should do to succeed(i.e. get ahead of others, or atleast come at par) and you bring in ‘partisans’ again. Why o why?
“people living in India ought to know better”…yeah they do
Missed Casino Royale in theaters. Heard great things about it.
btw, who made the Bond comment?
Casino Royale was a very successful film!
It did well in India too. I guess people who expected another Brosnan kind of Bond film were surprised. The collections indicate that the surprise was pleasant.
Beldevere: If I am only ‘dreaming’ you have nothing to worry about!
This is one puzzle I haven’t solved! If all the people who get enraged about Abhishek, specially enraged when they feel an exaggerated claim is being made about him (though one appreciates their selective principles in this regard!), if all the people who ridicule him on various grounds, if all these folks truly believed what they said there would be nothing for them to worry about. And my statements to the contrary wouldn’t cause any offense!
I am quite confident about my opinion in this matter! LOL!
‘ In other words the gap between celebrity and the box office shouldn’t be a wide one.’
I think if you compare Abhishek with Aamir here, Abhishek is far lop sided in celebrity status vs box office whereas Aamir is the opposite. And indeed this gap shouldn’t be a wide one. And the one-two punch notion is a good one. Aamir/Hrithik had it last year and SRK has delivered a massive one this year. Abhishek needed it, but has another chance next year.
ps I don’t think nithi was talking about the box office of Casino Royale, rather that the new Bond just got ‘beat up’ in the movie itself….is that right nithi ? Otherwise speaking, Casino Royale is the most successful Bond movie in a long time.
Charles–you obviously haven’t seen the more amusing ones buried deep down here
(dig em up). If these made you smile, I’m sure they’ll make you laugh.
Abhi-bashers are in full form here coming up with the usual incohesive responses! BM was a real cult movie and KNK while not as good had its moments.Aish looked simply gorgeous.And Abhi-Ash chemistry was very visible here.
Nana and to a lesser extent Ritesh did contribute to the movie but Abhi was the main force,something thats obvious and shouldnt even need to be stated but for the Abhi-haters.
Aarohi: That’s right Casino Royale made a bit more than the last Brosnan Bond in the US but comfortably outgrossed it worldwide.
Namaskar Elvis bhai
Abhi bashing to hui hi nahin yehan pe. Nithya, of course can’t stand him, she’s ben pretty upfront bout this fact forever. BTW.BM..real cult movie? Aap serious ho ya phir se mazaak kar rahe ho
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To be fair, KNK is not Rohan territory. He is better off with the edgy stuff.
Re:Charles–you obviously haven’t seen the more amusing ones buried deep down here
(dig em up). If these made you smile, I’m sure they’ll make you laugh.
Some comments will make you shake your head in disbelief.And often produce a sense of pity for the authors!
Sunny,
Cult as in real cult.Not the bollywood definition of cult.
why do you believe any of us worry about what anyone thinks here amarsinghji..
and neither does any of us have to get enraged. from your reaction, it is evident where the rage is. like i said dreaming is everyone’s birthright – so dream on or as they say lage raho
Jay: Danile Craig got super reviews for his Bond outing and was liked by the audiences as well. Plus a Bond movie cannot work if no one likes the actor playing Bond! Not sure if this is what Nithi_S meant.
You’re right on Aamir/Abhishek though it’s better to be the former than the latter! All said and done this is a box office game and the numbers are what counts at the end of the day. The celebrity or the cultural currency of a star is important to the extent that this can be translated into box office Rs but it also runs the danger of satiating audience interest on its own. In any case I think ‘08 is Abhishek’s last chance in many ways to not let the momentum and the moment totally slip away. It never gets easier!
A failure in either Sarkar or Drona (I insist that he needs both!) would really take it away from him and recovery would then involve much longer odds. His survival as a star is not questionable, just his survival in a bracket that truly matters.
His lineup is now Sarkar, Drona, D6, Karan Johar’s film, possibly the Hirani film, Rohan’s film. This is a good sequence on paper. Drona is of course the wild card and in some ways the critical film. Because Abhishek has staked everything on this. And a star’s judgment matters (am I sounding like Obama?!) as well (everyone should take lessons from Aamir!). If Drona fails one cannot say it was a risky film to begin with. It was and is but those are the odds Abhishek decided to play. Much as JA is a risky film but if it doesn’t work the period piece excuse cannot be used since Hrithik made that choice. But in either instance the star who can pull it off wins big.
I thoroughly enjoyed Bluff Master.It was a cleverly constructed movie with technical finesse.Nana and Abhishek rocked.
Beld,
Bro, I believe you are too cool for this Amarsinghji stuff.
sunny – why bother debate with elvis. his sense of debating is just to pour vitriol on people who dont think like him. and he talks about cohesive responses…lol. he has not made any sensible comment on any thread except make personal attacks and then call it as humor. anyway – look where a thread goes if some people express their disappointment on a Abhishek movie. i guess in their world – people cant have a different opinion
LOL, why is everybody getting so worked up here? Coz some people didn’t think of Rohan as a talented director
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Elvis–real cult? you mean a miniscule group liking something extremist and false
? Yeah, you’re probably right then.
Anyway..I’m off now..enjoy you guys.
elvis – thanks for your opinion – but i think you are the last person i would look to to judge anyone
Beld–I know, but I just enjoy it
. Anyway, you hold the front while I’m gone..he he.Time for dinner
‘though it’s better to be the former than the latter! All said and done this is a box office game and the numbers are what counts at the end of the day.’
Yep was gonna say the same. It’s a box office game. The point is Abhishek cannot become Paris Hilton
or shouldn’t !
‘His lineup is now Sarkar, Drona, D6, Karan Johar’s film, possibly the Hirani film, Rohan’s film. This is a good sequence on paper. ‘
Well the lineup is strong. I’m always the skeptic on Drona. K-Jo’s looks like a bad choice. The others on paper are either safe (Sarkar) or potentially good critically acclaimed movies (D6, Hirani’s). Risk and pay off is important. Pay off from a critically acclaimed movie (note CDI) is massive.
On 2008 being his last chance I beg to differ. Things can change rapidly (i.e. it only takes one big hit to get you back in the reckoning, but its consistency that takes you to the top) but agree its a big year following JBJ disappointment. Also considering SRK/Aamir/Hrithik may only have 1 release its a good chance for some catchup. Akshay Kumar is the wildcard in all this, the guy is running a marathon in sprint fashion, bombarding the box office with release after release. Is this guy on some kind of hig power duracell battery or what ! I mean if all his movies click next yr aswell, who can deny him #1 position.
Overall its a big 4 firmly now. But actually only 2 of the big 4 are active and the other two (Hrithik/Aamir) will have there say soon. Man I should be a commentator or something ! (in my own dream world of course)
Charles,
I wasn’t talking about Bond movies collection and BO success. I was talking about the Bond character being beaten up in the film. I meant the emphasis is more on Human super heroes.
jay
you really think akshay can ever be a no 1. i am sorry but i cant. i mean to me he will always be a step below. i think i compared him to kevin bacon. very successful but not a no 1 superstar – ever.
again like all the debates on NG show – there is no clear way of choosing a no 1 – but i somehow dont think that Akshay has that little something extra needed to be a no 1
and thats the other reason I think that akshay’s competition is salman, saif and ab jr. because salman is waning now – i see these 4 as super stars who dont have that extra something. anyway just my opinion
I don’t understand why people can’t stand the fact that I did not like that style of acting which Abhishek used in Bluffmaster. I couldn’t stand it.
I liked only Nana and Ritesh, who are miles ahead of Abhishek in my book. There are a lot of people who have that point of view.
The styling all throughout the movie is Hollywood inspired but it has been done soullessly. Just my take.
Jay: agreed on your last response.
On Akshay well many cross-sections of the media have already started calling him the top star or someone’s who’s threatening SRK and so on. Let’s put it this way. Even with a lot more prestige success the media never gave Aamir these writeups (understandable given the state of his media relations!) but also never gave Hrithik this even after Krrish and D2 (when they did the storyline post-Guru was that hrithik and Abhishek would fight it out for the top spot).
So yeah Akshay’s hits are really adding up!
‘you really think akshay can ever be a no 1. i am sorry but i cant’
Beldevere I was exactly the same about 6 months ago. And I’m singing to a different tune now. He needs a good critical success, but his box office record is now very strong. If it continues then he’s up there. #1 never, cos media loves SRK (
) but now even the media has started such comparisons. Its bad writing IMO, but these perceptions are out there already ! I still think of Akshay with Abhishek/Saif/Salman, but thats not fair. After a while, you have to back the guy that keeps scoring half centuries, but he still needs a century IMO !
Incidentally I also don’t like the Karan Johar subject at all but it would be hard for this one to fail in the multiplexes!
In some ways I still have the Drona theory. I think this is the pivot film at this point. This is the critical one, since in any case the others will only come after this.
‘In some ways I still have the Drona theory. I think this is the pivot film at this point.’
Its only the pivot if it gets a good start. For that to happen Abhishek needs a crowd pleaser in Sarkar. In any case, the next release is always the most important. I just made that saying up, but its a good compliment to ‘your only as good as your last’.
In pure multiplex terms Akshay will never be a true blue prestige star. But this might be a distinction without a difference given the way he’s going. And remember, with each hit he’s also winning over the multiplexes to his side. When I went to the the theaters to watch LCMD (BB was playing at the same place and of course I saw this later as well) the buzz for BB was palpable in the audience.
jay – i am not too sure. i dont think anyone believes that an akshay has a higher BO pull than any of the top 3. for that the top 3 has to have some flops (meaning real flops!)
Never wanted this to become an anti-Abhishek issue. It became like them as soon as the fanatic Abhishek lovers came in …
Jay: Oh that’s true. A sarkar success is essential. When I said ‘pivot film’ it wasn’t a prediction on the box office as much as a statement on the importance of the film in terms of when it’s appearing. So for example a Sarkar success followed by a Drona failure breaks the momentum. A Sarkar failure followed by a Drona failure is a disaster. A Sarkar success followed by a Drona success gives Abhishek a perfect year. A Sarkar failure followed by a Drona success is still not bad.
I think a Drona failure would be very hard to live down. Specially given the fantasy theme and the Hrithik comparison subplot the media won’t give him the kind of pass as it did with JBJ. Obviously he can’t afford a Sarkar failure either but then this is the kind of film that might underperform in the worst case scenario. It’s hard to see it failing as such.
So Drona to my mind could yield huge dividends if it works (more than the Sarkar ones for sure) and also be a colossal blow if it fails (more than a JBJ).
Much as Guru was the pivot film this year (in a different sense) I think Drona occupies that place next year for a whole different set of reasons.
Nithi_S: Why don’t the SRK fanatics ever turn you off SRK?!
Yea agree on that Satyam response about Drona importance.
though Akshay is really delivering hits after hits at this point of time, but still i dont think he has a bigger BO pull than say a srk or Hrithik or Aamir.an accepted movie of the these stars any day will gross a lot more than Akshay.i guess it has been proved with movies like D2,OSO and Fanaa.
gosh – i wonder if these actors know how much their movies are dissected by folks at NG. if they did – i can imagine the pressure on them.
I wish people read what I have said properly. All I have is said I might have not liked BM. But there were people who liked it. And BM has been Abhishek’s best time at the BO so far. So, he needs more from Rohan’s brand of movies (which I did not like) to really establish his stardom.
This of course, will hurt the sentiments who imagine that Abhishek is already the No.1 star.
LOL … this thread has amused with some new discoveries!
cant stop smiling … anyways, ignore the acidulous remarks nithi … all that u said made perfect sense … hence the annoyance of abhi fans and admirers.
hey Achilles, how r u doing bro? the promos of JA has still not been aired on TV.any idea when is it gonna start?
ps:BTW CAT went very well. paper was tough, but still managed it quite well.
hi som … missed ur comment … good to hear abt ur CAT
UTV seems to have been busy with GOAL release … JA promos shud hit the TV in a week or so bro
good debate, on to BM AND ROHAN ,BM was innovative with experimential musical score,rohan started off shakily with knk but both BM AND TAXI NO.9211 were trendy got praised in inrernational media to (http://movies.indiainfo.com/ne.....91205.html)